When will God intervene in human affairs and remove all evil? [Spirituality & Religion]

@canusernamebemyusername
That's a lie, it was never God's plan to let evil in at all. It was man's disobedience that brought evil upon us.

@GodSpeed63 You cant overpower an omnipotent and omniscience God with free will. It was his plan.

@canusernamebemyusername
You're right, you can't. However, God is not dictator that He would force His will on His free creation. God had a plan to set mankind free from evil whether mankind fell or not. So, it's still a lie if you think that God planned to have evil overcome mankind, causernamebemyusername.

@GodSpeed63


Does anything happen which is not part of god's plan? 🤔

@SpiritualMan Yet, despite it being omniscient, this "almighty god's" plan was so easily thwarted by a woman and a talking snake. It couldn't have been a very well thought out plan.

@SpiritualMan
A contingency plan is a plan for when things don't go according to plan...

@SpiritualMan

So then it was part of his plan that evil entered the world.
You can't have it both ways, guy.
You can say that evil entered the world because of man's free will and fall but either man's fall was part of god's plan or man's fall happened contrary to god's plan.
Either everything went according to the plan or it did not.
Either evil is part of the plan or it is not.
It's a binary choice.

I can appreciate that, that puts you in an uncomfortable position of acknowledging that either god is not omnipotent or that god always planned for man kind's fall but that's why it's called the problem of evil.

@SpiritualMan


Nope.
Potentially means that god had different plans because he didn't know what would happen
You can't have it both ways.
Either Evil was always part of the plan or it was not.

You're just throwing synonym after synonym in an attempt to get around that.
Call it contingency plans, call it potential plans, it doesn't matter.
It all means plan A didn't work out and god had to move on to plan B.

Or you can just admit that evil was always part of god's plan for the classic ineffable reasons.

@SpiritualMan

No on said anything about god causing it to occur...but either he knew it would happen and that was according to plan or he didn't know it would happen and it wasn't according to plan.

When you say god "allowed the possibility" you're saying god didn't know what was going to happen and you're saying god didn't have a plan that the actions of mankind played into.

You don't get to have it both ways.

Just accept that your god always planned that evil was going to be part of his creation because right now all you're doing is pretending to believe that god is omnipotent while using explanations that only work for fallible beings.

You're making human excuses for a being that in your system of belief cannot be capable of human failing.
I'm sorry you can't see that.

@Pikachu
Learn to spell, Pikachu. Your ignorance on God and His Word knows no bounds? He knew how things would go either way and made plans for both.

@GodSpeed63
So he didn't know which way. That means he can't be omniscient.

@Sharon
Wrong again, Sharon.

@GodSpeed63 LOL! You need to learn what the word "omniscient" means. If you ever do, you'll know that you're wrong again as usual.

@SpiritualMan That's a contradiction. If he knew which way it would go, he knew it couldn't go either way.

@SpiritualMan That's just sophistry. If the outcome is known in advance, there is no element of chance, it simply cannot go the other way.

@SpiritualMan Actually, Adam didn't sin. He couldn't because, at that stage, he had no knowledge of right and wrong. That fact aside, if his action were already known, there was no chace he wouldn't take the action he did.