More science which destroys Young Earth Creationism and the food. Today: Elephants disprove the Flood myth! [Spirituality & Religion]
The diversity of Proboscideans (the group to which elephants and several extinct species belong) makes the Flood myth utterly impossible.
The first problem is one of diversity. Since creationists must rely on the non-scientific category "kind" as a rescue device for having far fewer animals on the Ark, this means that at most 2 or 3 members of Proboscidea would have been included. Unfortunately that means that all the members of this order must have diversified after the flood AND THE MATH DON'T ADD UP. To achieve the observed diversity then there would have to be one new species of Proboscidean in EVERY generation which has never been observed even in the fasted reproducing animals like fruit flies or bacteria. [b][c=1F5E00]Strike one.[/c][/b]
The second problem is that even if the creationist only includes a couple members of Proboscidea AND assumes they are juvenile animals AND assumes a metabolic rate as if they were sleeping the whole time THEN 60% OF THE AVAILABLE SPACE ON THE ARK would still be required to feed and house them. Doesn't leave much room, yeah? [b][c=804600]Strike two[/c][/b]
The last problem is obvious and simple: If that level of rapid diversification is impossible and then the creationist must have many MORE "kinds" of Proboscidean on the ark which takes that already crippling 60% to something more like 400% [b][c=800000]Steeeerike three[/c][/b]
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Honestly that would be an acceptable answer imo. If Creationists want to sit back and just say it was done by god magic then there's no way to falsify it and it stays in the realm of faith. But when they try to pretend that science supports that faith claim...well then we have a problem lol
@Pikachu It's a bastardization of science. Like someone said about a different group. They want the benefits of science without actually contributing anything to it. Faith and science are opposite.
Science is the observation, formulation and testing of things we can see. Whereas the Bible states faith as:... "faith is confidence in what we hope for and assurance about what we do not see."
What gets me is organizations like AiG who outright declare that any science which appears to contradict a literal interpretation of the bible is wrong. That's just so dishonest.
@Pikachu [quote]What gets me is organizations like AiG who outright declare that any science which appears to contradict a literal interpretation of the bible is wrong. That's just so dishonest.[/quote]
That's just right on. Science will always point to God and His Word but you, Pikachu, already know that being that you get frustrated trying to prove otherwise. So, when you fail to at your efforts, you resort to making futile attempts to discredit God, His Word, and us.
Nah not trying to discredit god. Pay attention. I'm only discrediting a fringe interpretation of the bible held by you and people like you and only because people like who insist on stealing the legitimacy of science when it suits you.
That was your one freebie btw. Unless you're going to beg for a mulligan you need to leave.
