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Do we need God for Morality? [Spirituality & Religion]

Obviously the secular answer is a resounding NO.
But if you're a theist who says "yes", i want to hear your reasoning.
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JBird · F
Of course, my answer is no. Some people aren't wise enough to understand right from wrong, so they need religion or God which again not always a great idea
newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
@JBird As they say, if you can’t tell right from wrong, you don’t lack religion... you lack empathy
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@newjaninev2 @JBird [quote]Of course, my answer is no. Some people aren't wise enough to understand right from wrong, so they need religion or God which again not always a great idea[/quote]

Religion has nothing to do with the righteousness of Yahweh.
JBird · F
@GodSpeed63 prove it. 😬
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@JBird [quote]prove it.[/quote]

When you've proven what Yahweh says isn't true, then you'll have your proof.
JBird · F
@GodSpeed63 I don't have proof that whatever your God said is true. So there's your proof. 😬
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@JBird [quote]I don't have proof that whatever your God said isn't true.[/quote]

Neither do you have proof that Yahweh doesn't live. You misspelled a word.
JBird · F
@GodSpeed63 dear man, my life and other non Christians are enough to prove that your God doesn't exist. Things in our life worked without your Yahweh. Also, your reluctance to prove that your God exist is another proof.
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@JBird [quote]dear man, my life and other non Christians are enough to prove that your God doesn't exist.[/quote]

Won't wash. Believing that Yahweh doesn't live does not alter the fact that He does live.
Sharon · F
@GodSpeed63 [quote]Neither do you have that Yahweh doesn't live. [/quote]
Neither do you have proof that The Flying Spaghetti Monster doesn't live.

Believing that The Flying Spaghetti Monster doesn't live does not alter the fact that It does live.

r'Amen.
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@Sharon [quote]either do you have proof that The Flying Spaghetti Monster doesn't live.[/quote]

This coming from a liar that tells me to stop lying. Don't you know by now, Sharon, that lying only results in you degrading yourself?
Sharon · F
@GodSpeed63 [quote]This coming from a liar that tells me to stop lying.[/quote]
You're the liar here. You're right about degrading yourself though, you ought to know better by now but it seems you don't even have any self-respect.

Anyway, stop deflecting. If you have proof The Flying Spaghetti Monster doesn't live, present it here now or get used to the fact that It does live.

r'Amen.
JBird · F
@GodSpeed63 [quote]
Believing that Yahweh doesn't live does not alter the fact that He does live.
[/quote]
Yes, it does if I haven't seen him in my life. You haven't provided the proof he exists.
@GodSpeed63

[quote]this coming from a liar that tells me to stop lying.[/quote]

Like when you lied repeatedly about being shitty to Sharon because you were upset and tellingly refused to promise with god as your witness that you weren't upset when you did that?

Like that, hypocrite?
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@Sharon [quote]You're the liar here.[/quote]

Prove it.
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@Pikachu [quote]ike when you lied repeatedly about being shitty to Sharon because you were upset and tellingly refused to promise with god as your witness that you weren't upset when you did that?[/quote]

Prove it.
JBird · F
@GodSpeed63 prove that we are liars. Call your God.
@GodSpeed63

[quote]Prove it.
[/quote]

lol ok:

You claimed that when you told Sharon that she talked like an idiot and was a child who would get in trouble for using the computer that you were not upset or agitated with her.

With god as your witness, do you promise that when you said those things that you were not upset or agitated with her?

You also claim to give straight answers to straight questions so you will not ignore this post.

Answer🙂
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@Pikachu [quote]You claimed that when you told Sharon that she talked like an idiot and was a child who would get in trouble for using the computer that you were not upset or agitated with her.[/quote]

When a person who's degraded themselves like Sharon did, and still does, wouldn't you be a little upset?
JBird · F
@GodSpeed63 only person who degraded is you because you talk about a God that you can't prove exists and ignored all the evidences we bring to you
@GodSpeed63

Oh so you admit that you WERE lying when you denied that.
So then before you call other people a liar, call yourself that first.
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@Pikachu [quote]Oh so you admit that you WERE lying when you denied that.[/quote]

No, I wasn't lying. There's a difference between allowing a person to upset you on purpose and getting upset at a person making a fool of themselves. Sharon didn't upset me on purpose.
@GodSpeed63

lol upset is upset whether she was trying to upset you or whether you allowed yourself to get upset.
The fact is that you lied about it.

1) I pointed out that you got upset with her and said she talked like an idiot and so on.
2) You denied that you were upset (either intentionally or otherwise)
3)When reminded that to lie is a sin and asked in the name of god, you admitted that you had been upset.

You lied and then you accused other people of lying.
So before you call someone else a liar, call yourself that first.


Case closed.
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@Pikachu [quote]upset is upset[/quote]

So? You can be upset and calm or you can be upset and flustered. You guys were going for the latter when I was practicing the former.
@GodSpeed63

Let me spell this out for you:

The fact that you got upset is nothing. Everyone gets upset.
What makes you a hypocrite is that (while claiming to be truthful) you [i]lied[/i] about having been rude because you were upset and you kept on lying until i got you to answer with god as your witness AND you called other people liars all the while.

I was just calling you on your hypocrisy and if you'd been man enough to own up to it right away then your hypocrisy wouldn't been put so [i]conspicuously [/i]on display.

So that.🤷‍♀️
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@Pikachu [quote]So that.[/quote]

Whatever. 🙄 Go play with your toys.