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Adstar · 56-60, M
Simple.. He created us, So therefore we are his creation, and so He wants to Redeem His creation..
If i made something and it gets damaged i want to fix it too..
If i made something and it gets damaged i want to fix it too..
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@Adstar he set the trap
Adstar · 56-60, M
@Pikachu Well my answer was correct.. You not believing in the Way is another issue entirely.. The question has been answered.. And there is no other legitimate answer to the question irrespective of your belief or un belief..
(2 Corinthians 4:3-4) "But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost: {4} In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them."
(2 Corinthians 4:3-4) "But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost: {4} In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them."
@Adstar
[quote] You not believing in the Way is another issue entirely[/quote]
No, it's the entire point of this question.
[quote]The question has been answered[/quote]
It really hasn't.
When we got right down to it, you said "read the bible" which is a demonstrably ineffective means to the end of believing in god.
[quote] You not believing in the Way is another issue entirely[/quote]
No, it's the entire point of this question.
[quote]The question has been answered[/quote]
It really hasn't.
When we got right down to it, you said "read the bible" which is a demonstrably ineffective means to the end of believing in god.
Adstar · 56-60, M
@Pikachu Ohh i see.. You should have bolded your entire question...
God does not want to spend eternity with those who hate His Will.. He wants to spend eternity with people who love his will.. Those who reject the revealed will of God contained in the Bible and reject the Gospel Way God has made for Humans to be justly forgiven and redeemed will not have eternal life with God in His perfect eternal existence..
So while God would have all humans Redeemed He cannot do so unjustly and the Way He has made for humans to be justly redeemed is the Way he is doing it now..
People who seek ""proof"" of God outside the Way He has made for himself to be revealed have rejected His revelation.. And people who reject His revelation are condemned already..
You can look at the Word of God as a kind of filter.. filtering out those who reject it..
God does not want to spend eternity with those who hate His Will.. He wants to spend eternity with people who love his will.. Those who reject the revealed will of God contained in the Bible and reject the Gospel Way God has made for Humans to be justly forgiven and redeemed will not have eternal life with God in His perfect eternal existence..
So while God would have all humans Redeemed He cannot do so unjustly and the Way He has made for humans to be justly redeemed is the Way he is doing it now..
People who seek ""proof"" of God outside the Way He has made for himself to be revealed have rejected His revelation.. And people who reject His revelation are condemned already..
You can look at the Word of God as a kind of filter.. filtering out those who reject it..
@Adstar
[quote]God does not want to spend eternity with those who hate His Will.. He wants to spend eternity with people who love his will..[/quote]
This is a false dichotomy and blatantly so.
Someone who is unconvinced that god exists does not hate his will.
[quote]People who seek ""proof"" of God outside the Way He has made for himself to be revealed have rejected His revelation[/quote]
Incorrect.
Rejection is a willful act. Being unconvinced is involuntary.
You can prove this concept to yourself by deciding right now that you are convinced that Santa is real.
...were you successful?
Of course you weren't. So then you understand that you cannot choose to be convinced by that which you find unconvincing.
Therefore no one is [i]rejecting[/i] god on the basis of not being convinced.
You must first know he's real to reject him.
Which brings us back to the question of this thread.
[quote]God does not want to spend eternity with those who hate His Will.. He wants to spend eternity with people who love his will..[/quote]
This is a false dichotomy and blatantly so.
Someone who is unconvinced that god exists does not hate his will.
[quote]People who seek ""proof"" of God outside the Way He has made for himself to be revealed have rejected His revelation[/quote]
Incorrect.
Rejection is a willful act. Being unconvinced is involuntary.
You can prove this concept to yourself by deciding right now that you are convinced that Santa is real.
...were you successful?
Of course you weren't. So then you understand that you cannot choose to be convinced by that which you find unconvincing.
Therefore no one is [i]rejecting[/i] god on the basis of not being convinced.
You must first know he's real to reject him.
Which brings us back to the question of this thread.
Adstar · 56-60, M
@Pikachu Those who read the Bible and agree with His Will revealed there within Will end up believing in Gods existence.....
Those who disbelieve,, first disagree with the Gods will..
Disbelieving that God exists is a psychological defense mechanism for people who disagree with the will of God.. If one hated the will of God and still believed in God then they would live a life of fear and terror of God.. So God gives them over to disbelief, delusions and deceptions.. At lest then they can have an opportunity to enjoy something in their life times on earth..
Oh and having observed the amount of mockery and derision you project upon the Gospel it is clear to me you have rejected the Way of salvation.. You are not a simple case of someone simply not believing God exists.. You are an active anti-christ seeking to mock and denigrate the Gospel of the LORD Jesus Christ
Those who disbelieve,, first disagree with the Gods will..
Disbelieving that God exists is a psychological defense mechanism for people who disagree with the will of God.. If one hated the will of God and still believed in God then they would live a life of fear and terror of God.. So God gives them over to disbelief, delusions and deceptions.. At lest then they can have an opportunity to enjoy something in their life times on earth..
Oh and having observed the amount of mockery and derision you project upon the Gospel it is clear to me you have rejected the Way of salvation.. You are not a simple case of someone simply not believing God exists.. You are an active anti-christ seeking to mock and denigrate the Gospel of the LORD Jesus Christ
@Adstar
[quote]Disbelieving that God exists is a psychological defense mechanism for people who disagree with the will of God[/quote]
...um you just made that up.
Is not believing in Santa a psychological defense mechanism for people who disagree with Santa?
So in fact you're simply ignoring the little exercise you just completed.
You just [i]proved to yourself[/i] that belief is not a willful choice and have post hoc invented a rationalization to cover over the cognitive dissonance.
And not only that but you'd like to spin it as god doing as a favour before we burn forever.
Ok.
Oh, i see the rest of your post is given over to personally criticizing me.
I certainly have issues with parts of the bible and find other parts quite funny.
I'm also happy to discuss it both seriously and flippantly depending on my mood and the subject.
Must be that psychological defense mechanism lol.
You can see yourself out.
[quote]Disbelieving that God exists is a psychological defense mechanism for people who disagree with the will of God[/quote]
...um you just made that up.
Is not believing in Santa a psychological defense mechanism for people who disagree with Santa?
So in fact you're simply ignoring the little exercise you just completed.
You just [i]proved to yourself[/i] that belief is not a willful choice and have post hoc invented a rationalization to cover over the cognitive dissonance.
And not only that but you'd like to spin it as god doing as a favour before we burn forever.
Ok.
Oh, i see the rest of your post is given over to personally criticizing me.
I certainly have issues with parts of the bible and find other parts quite funny.
I'm also happy to discuss it both seriously and flippantly depending on my mood and the subject.
Must be that psychological defense mechanism lol.
You can see yourself out.