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Budwick · 70-79, M
[quote]but refusing to reveal himself in a way ...[/quote]
What's wrong with the way He chose?
Oh, that's right, it's not the way you would do it.
What's wrong with the way He chose?
Oh, that's right, it's not the way you would do it.
Pikachu ·
@Budwick
Oh, you [i]did [/i]have a snarky comeback.
It was just one that you already used and which ignores the answer i gave lol
[i][b]Literally billions of people, in fact the majority of the world don't believe in him and therefore won't be saved.
That seems like a problem if god wants to save people...[/b][/i]
Address that if you can.
Unless that challenge seems to much like i'm ridiculing you and Christians😏
Oh, you [i]did [/i]have a snarky comeback.
It was just one that you already used and which ignores the answer i gave lol
[i][b]Literally billions of people, in fact the majority of the world don't believe in him and therefore won't be saved.
That seems like a problem if god wants to save people...[/b][/i]
Address that if you can.
Unless that challenge seems to much like i'm ridiculing you and Christians😏
Pikachu ·
@Budwick
[quote]So you and those billions of others that don't,[/quote]
lol and in your guilty little heart you take some pleasure in that, don't you?
If your answer is that god's priority is not to save as many people as he can then that's fine.
It is a biblically supported position and i would agree.
After all, everything he does and creates is for his own glory.
But many Christians seem to be under the impression that god love us and wants to save us.
This is really more of a question for them than it is for those who are happy to be part of "haves" and the "have nots" deserve what they get.🤷♀️
[quote]So you and those billions of others that don't,[/quote]
lol and in your guilty little heart you take some pleasure in that, don't you?
If your answer is that god's priority is not to save as many people as he can then that's fine.
It is a biblically supported position and i would agree.
After all, everything he does and creates is for his own glory.
But many Christians seem to be under the impression that god love us and wants to save us.
This is really more of a question for them than it is for those who are happy to be part of "haves" and the "have nots" deserve what they get.🤷♀️
Budwick · 70-79, M
@Pikachu You know, instead of whining about how God won't play by your rules, you COULD play by His.
You could even encourage billions of other people to do the same!
But, I see with your closing remarks, you enjoy ridiculing believers more than your own salvation.
Carry on.
You're burning daylight!
You could even encourage billions of other people to do the same!
But, I see with your closing remarks, you enjoy ridiculing believers more than your own salvation.
Carry on.
You're burning daylight!
Budwick · 70-79, M
@Pikachu I'm not surprised that you don't recall.
You had me on the ropes pretty good that time.
We were PMing back and forth.
I told you that I had prayed for you and reported back a few days later.
We were in the same place as we are now.
My point is this, I believe that if your desire to know God is true / sincere - that God will respond and make Himself known to you somehow.
All that leaves you in much the same place we were at yesterday. You can't pray to God that you don't believe in.
Picking up dog poop is more important to me than people incessantly berating God and His believers.
You had me on the ropes pretty good that time.
We were PMing back and forth.
I told you that I had prayed for you and reported back a few days later.
We were in the same place as we are now.
My point is this, I believe that if your desire to know God is true / sincere - that God will respond and make Himself known to you somehow.
All that leaves you in much the same place we were at yesterday. You can't pray to God that you don't believe in.
Picking up dog poop is more important to me than people incessantly berating God and His believers.
Pikachu ·
@Budwick
lol Get down off your high horse.
I asked an honest question and [i]you[/i] were the one whose [i]first [/i]response was antagonistic.
Your snarky "Oh, that's right, it's not the way you would do it."
Which you repeated even in the face of my earnest answer.
You behave the way you do because it makes you feel good.
You're welcome back if and when you demonstrate an interest in a legitimate discussion.
Until then, go put on your [i]act[/i] of piety for someone who buys it.
lol Get down off your high horse.
I asked an honest question and [i]you[/i] were the one whose [i]first [/i]response was antagonistic.
Your snarky "Oh, that's right, it's not the way you would do it."
Which you repeated even in the face of my earnest answer.
You behave the way you do because it makes you feel good.
You're welcome back if and when you demonstrate an interest in a legitimate discussion.
Until then, go put on your [i]act[/i] of piety for someone who buys it.
Pikachu ·
@Budwick
[quote]Your agenda always seems to get in the way.[/quote]
lol again, it was [i]you [/i]who began this interaction antagonistically.
You can't squirm away from that.
Your empty sanctimony does nothing to change it.
In the future when you decide to enter one of my threads, do so with respect and you may be surprised to find that you receive it.
When you enter with petty animosity and an ax to grind then don't get your panties in a twist when you reap what you sow.
Begone.
[quote]Your agenda always seems to get in the way.[/quote]
lol again, it was [i]you [/i]who began this interaction antagonistically.
You can't squirm away from that.
Your empty sanctimony does nothing to change it.
In the future when you decide to enter one of my threads, do so with respect and you may be surprised to find that you receive it.
When you enter with petty animosity and an ax to grind then don't get your panties in a twist when you reap what you sow.
Begone.
Pikachu ·
@Budwick
[quote]Don't expect respect you don't deserve.
[/quote]
Again, you behave like a shit because it makes you feel good to do so.
You attack me because you don't like me.
End of story.
Don't profane your religion by pretending that you behave the way you do in honour of it.
Why don't you go ahead and describe what was so disrespectful about this question.
Go on...
...oh, nothing to say?
Thought not.
Begone.
[quote]Don't expect respect you don't deserve.
[/quote]
Again, you behave like a shit because it makes you feel good to do so.
You attack me because you don't like me.
End of story.
Don't profane your religion by pretending that you behave the way you do in honour of it.
Why don't you go ahead and describe what was so disrespectful about this question.
Go on...
...oh, nothing to say?
Thought not.
Begone.
LeopoldBloom · M
@Budwick Does God want to save everyone?
If the answer is no, why would God create people just to torture them forever? Wouldn’t that make him a demon?
If the answer is yes, then does God get what he wants? If God wants to save me, and I resist, wouldn’t that make me stronger than God? How can God create a being stronger than he is?
Just a demonstration of how God is a logical impossibility.
If the answer is no, why would God create people just to torture them forever? Wouldn’t that make him a demon?
If the answer is yes, then does God get what he wants? If God wants to save me, and I resist, wouldn’t that make me stronger than God? How can God create a being stronger than he is?
Just a demonstration of how God is a logical impossibility.
Budwick · 70-79, M
@LeopoldBloom [quote]Does God want to save everyone? [/quote]
No, just those that love Him and sincerely seek a relationship with Him.
He created us for that purpose!
Sour grapes from those that refuse God and then complain that He won't save them isn't the way to salvation. His Word explains that pretty thoroughly.
There's a lot about God that defies human logic and scientific principle. If you think about it, those abilities are things one might expect from The Creator of the Universe.
No, just those that love Him and sincerely seek a relationship with Him.
He created us for that purpose!
Sour grapes from those that refuse God and then complain that He won't save them isn't the way to salvation. His Word explains that pretty thoroughly.
There's a lot about God that defies human logic and scientific principle. If you think about it, those abilities are things one might expect from The Creator of the Universe.
LeopoldBloom · M
@Budwick So he created people who would not love him?
It's not sour grapes. I don't expect anything from a God who doesn't exist. I'm only pointing out the absurdity and illogic of the people who claim to believe in him. If God were to appear to me and demonstrate his existence [b]in a way I can understand and accept[/b], that would convince me. You banging your gums about him isn't sufficient.
And please don't tell me "his creation demonstrates his existence." That might work for you but not for me. I need more, like a personal miracle. It's kind of like how you're talking to someone at a business, and you don't like what they're telling you, so you ask to talk to their manager. If the person says "sorry, you can't do that," most customers will walk out. That's all I'm doing. Let me talk to your manager or admit that your belief system is purely subjective.
It's not sour grapes. I don't expect anything from a God who doesn't exist. I'm only pointing out the absurdity and illogic of the people who claim to believe in him. If God were to appear to me and demonstrate his existence [b]in a way I can understand and accept[/b], that would convince me. You banging your gums about him isn't sufficient.
And please don't tell me "his creation demonstrates his existence." That might work for you but not for me. I need more, like a personal miracle. It's kind of like how you're talking to someone at a business, and you don't like what they're telling you, so you ask to talk to their manager. If the person says "sorry, you can't do that," most customers will walk out. That's all I'm doing. Let me talk to your manager or admit that your belief system is purely subjective.
Budwick · 70-79, M
@LeopoldBloom [quote] You banging your gums about him isn't sufficient.[/quote]
Of course not!
That's why He made Himself known within His Creation!
Creation is here for all of us and everyone can understand and accept. It can work for everyone. Demanding a command performance I don't think has ever worked.
[quote]Let me talk to your manager [/quote]
He has an open line for you now!
Of course not!
That's why He made Himself known within His Creation!
Creation is here for all of us and everyone can understand and accept. It can work for everyone. Demanding a command performance I don't think has ever worked.
[quote]Let me talk to your manager [/quote]
He has an open line for you now!
LeopoldBloom · M
@Budwick OK, I'm right here, he knows where to find me. Assuming he exists and gives a fuck, of course.
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Nope, still nothing. All I hear is you, a degenerate who follows a death cult.
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Nope, still nothing. All I hear is you, a degenerate who follows a death cult.
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