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Abstraction · 61-69, M
There are a number of logical fallacies in here - the core one being equivocation on the concept of omnipotence.
Right there your diagram is dead.
Right there your diagram is dead.
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Carazaa · F
@Abstraction Yes they haven’t understood omnipotence yet but I am praying for them!
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Abstraction · 61-69, M
@Emosaur I remember you, you're very intelligent.
Omnipotence is not the ability to do anything. I didn't make this up, it has a long philosophical history. You can't do things that are nonsensical by definition - can God make a rock so heavy he can't pick i up? :D I like that. But philosophically, free will where wrong cannot be chosen becomes nonsensical by definition. “Try to exclude the possibility of suffering which the order of nature and the existence of free wills involve, and you find that you have excluded life itself.”
Again - I hear and feel your deeper sentiment, the seeming complete incompatibility between a supposed good God and the evil we experience. I work knee deep with the mess at the end of selfishness - with the world's poor in overseas aid - i'm not living in some out-of-sight out-of-mind bubble. I like that you ask hard questions of it. I do.
Omnipotence is not the ability to do anything. I didn't make this up, it has a long philosophical history. You can't do things that are nonsensical by definition - can God make a rock so heavy he can't pick i up? :D I like that. But philosophically, free will where wrong cannot be chosen becomes nonsensical by definition. “Try to exclude the possibility of suffering which the order of nature and the existence of free wills involve, and you find that you have excluded life itself.”
Again - I hear and feel your deeper sentiment, the seeming complete incompatibility between a supposed good God and the evil we experience. I work knee deep with the mess at the end of selfishness - with the world's poor in overseas aid - i'm not living in some out-of-sight out-of-mind bubble. I like that you ask hard questions of it. I do.
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Entwistle · 56-60, M
@Abstraction Who decides what is right or wrong or good or bad?
If I break my leg is that good or bad? What if my broken leg stops me being enlisted in the Army and having to go to war?
If I break my leg is that good or bad? What if my broken leg stops me being enlisted in the Army and having to go to war?
Bushranger · 70-79, M
@Carazaa Non-christians and even Atheists know right from wrong within their cultural context. The existence or otherwise of your God is not necessary for a moral society.
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