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Does the god of the bible allow human sacrifice or the sacrifice of children? [Spirituality & Religion]

It's said in the bible that one of the foul things done by the nations whom the Israelites conquered was sacrificing their children to their god.

But isn't that exactly what happens in the story of Jephthah?
He promises god that if he will grant Jephthah victory in battle then he will sacrifice whatever comes out of his house to meet him upon his return.
Now let's just blow right past the fact that at BEST something coming out of his house to meet him is going to be a pet and more likely a family member.

[quote]When Jephthah returned to his home in Mizpah, who should come out to meet him but his daughter, dancing to the sound of timbrels! She was an only child.[/quote]

Judges 11:34

And then Jephtha burns his daughter as a sacrifice to god in return for his victory.
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Lucia · 36-40, T
Does it matter what the bible says if you don't believe in it? What the bible tells most people is to be kind to one another, and to help where one can.

Some people who were born with the lack of a brain may occassionally do violent and stupid stuff blaming it on the bible, the koran or Donald Duck - that doesn't mean it's something those communities actually support.
@Lucia

Think of this as book club for me. I'm reading through the bible and discussing the things i find there.
Lucia · 36-40, T
@Pikachu Well I think you are pursuing a logical analysis of a written work that holds a very different meaning to a lot of people on here - and while I am completely onboard with atheism and all, I think maybe this choice of discussion topic could be done a little differently, if you truly wanted their honest opinion on it.
@Lucia

I thought i was persuing it pretty honestly...to be honest😜
I do want their honest opinion because if i think it isn't borne out by the scripture then i want to challenge them on it. Robust debate is kinda my bag lol.

But i'm happy to hear suggestions on how you think i ought to have approached this subject.
Speedyman · 70-79, M
You are not pursuing anything honestly any more than that clown whose website you’ve been gullibly getting your misinformation off is. You are not interested in robust debate as you haven’t the intellect for it. I doubt whether you graduated college the daft things you come out with. You don’t even appear to be able to read the a Bible text anyway, just like the Tom-fool of an atheist you gullible follow. Grow up, little boy, get a brain! @Pikachu
@Speedyman

Yawn.
Childish posturing devoid of substance or even a coherent thought.
I'm just your obsession and you need to best me.

Typical🤷🏻
Speedyman · 70-79, M
Typical that you called actually speaking the truth childish posturing. You can’t even read and when someone corrects you you call it childish posturing. When are you going to get it into your head that you are the child here you silly little boy@Pikachu
@Speedyman

[quote]Typical that you called actually speaking the truth childish posturing[/quote]

lol aww buddy...

No.
Of course that's not it although i'm not even slightly surprised that, that's how it seems in that mind of yours.
See, you can disagree with me all day long about what is true and i wont' call it posturing.
It's when you say stuff like this:

[quote]You are not interested in robust debate as you haven’t the intellect for it. I doubt whether you graduated college the daft things you come out with.[/quote]

You're not seeking to understand where i'm coming from or even trying to argue for your own point.
You're just trying to make me feel small and yourself feel big.

That's why you're nothing more than a child posturing.
That's why you're boring.

Sorry.🤷🏻
Speedyman · 70-79, M
It’s not me who is boring but you who is pathetic. I don’t need to feel big because I know I’m very well qualified academically where you probably haven’t even graduated from college and that’s why you’ve got a snoop around some idiot atheist trying to get things from his stupid site . You are of course a very childish individual posturing in order to try and get yourself noticed. Now please tell me why it was atheists who were the biggest mass murderers of the 21st-century and murdered millions of innocent children if you’re so concerned with child sacrifice. Why did their regimes kill so many people? That is surely the question you’ve got an answer as an atheist Not questions about some God you don’t believe in@Pikachu
@Speedyman

[quote]No YUR the posturing child!....he screamed calmly while heaping insults on me and praise on himself.[/quote]

lol mmmkay, little buddy.
You sure proved me wrong.

You showed me by not responding to my other post where i excused you that you have some measure of self control.
Exercise it again here and see yourself out without further apoplectic posturing.
Thanks in advance😁
Lucia · 36-40, T
@Pikachu But why do you want their opinion? To me it seems like you are covering religion-bashing up in literal interpretations of biblical texts, and confronting people with practices which noone - or very, very, very few people on the planet practice.

In my view you are picking out a debate topic which holds very little relevance because the topic you have chosen is not of practical importance in today's world.

And this is what I do not understand. To me it seems the only aim here is to create a heated exchange of words or frustrating religious people who are not guilty of child sacrifices. And I have very little sympathy for that, because we need to find common ground across cultures, dreams, hopes and visions in order to move forward as a species - not dig trenches.

If, by chance, someone believes in god (or if they don't, who cares), and they do start sacrificing children. I will do my part in bringing the hammer down on them - but not because of any religious motive, but because of the illegal nature of the activity in which they are involved.
Lucia · 36-40, T
@Pikachu And I think I should speak with some gravity on the whole non-religious vs religious people thing. I take a ton of shit from religious people who think the T next to my name is direct evidence that I am the re-incarnation of the devil.

If I can stay on my feet and see them as individual morons (whose definition of heaven I am thrilled not to share with them) - so can you.
@Lucia

Well you're certainly entitled to your opinion. You're quite wrong but you've been polite to me so i will take the time to explain myself to you just once more.

I'm not bashing religion. I'm reading the bible (and enjoying it) as a good book. I am discussing what i find there as i come across it.
I am asking questions and making criticisms and i insist on a robust defense of any claim or answer supplied in these threads.
This is nothing new. The tagline on my profile makes this expectation explicit.

There are things in the bile which i find genuinely horrifying and i'm not afraid to express that or challenge people's acceptance of those things. Too many people see this as malicious, as hateful, as an attack.
I can't help that.

I don't bash religion or paint christians with one brush.
I address each one of them on an individual basis. Some prove that they are to debate in good faith and others show me that they're just mad at me for daring to question things they feel are above questioning.
As you put it, i can see them as individual morons😉 lol
Lucia · 36-40, T
@Pikachu Well by that, I just think you are digging a trench because the topic you chose holds very little practical relevance. But it's a free world, and I'm not going to tell you not to. I'll instead give you a ticket to an alternative train of thought (finding relevant topics), which you can then decide whether or not there's any sense in it or not.
@Lucia

With respect, what is or is not a relevant subject for conversation and discussion is entirely subjective and is not determined solely by practical considerations.
Speedyman · 70-79, M
You are an extremely impractical person. Why don’t you go and get yourself a job instead of wasting your time on the Internet? Although I doubt whether anybody would employ you. @Pikachu
@Speedyman


So you're unemployed?
Speedyman · 70-79, M
I’ve had a lifetime of employment. You are unemployed I take it? If you acted stupidly at work as you do on the Internet I could not never see anybody employing you@Pikachu
@Speedyman

I've had a lifetime of employment...so not employed now....lol makes so much sense.

Yes i have a job...it's [i]Saturday [/i], bud. Calm down😂
Speedyman · 70-79, M
I’ve not only had a lifetime of work, I’m still working which is more than you are apparently. I know it’s Saturday but what about all the other days of the week when your uselessly trolling the Internet? Go and get a job. Be a productive member of society@Pikachu
@Speedyman

lol that got your back up in a hurry.😁

Have you ever noticed that there appear to be may hours between blocks of my post? Say...the number of hours between bed and a workday?

lol of course you haven't because since i haven't actually bothered to convince you that i have a job, you think you've found your new weapon.
Same thing when you told me to get a girlfriend. Same thing when you told me to get friends and on and on.
You show me your insecurities with these barbs, speedy. You're only hurting yourself. And i hurt you most deeply when i pointed out your obsession with me because up to that point you had not used the word and after that point you used it in almost every post here.

You are obsessed with me. So go get some friends and spend time with them. See if there's a woman who will have you (doubt it) and go with those friends and girlfriend and do some charity work instead of trolling
every
single
thread i make.😂
That's what obsession looks like, speedy.

Anyway, i think that's all the time i shall spend putting you back in your place.
Ta ta🙂
Speedyman · 70-79, M
No doubt you’re spending your time uselessly anyway. Why don’t you get yourself a proper job? You make me laugh! You spend your time trawling and then you try and convince someone you are useful member of society. Pull the other leg! 🤣🤣🤣🤣@Pikachu