If i tell you that any of the apparent design you saw in the universe was not the work of god... [Spirituality & Religion]

@xRedx What claim did they make, it was a hypothetical from what it looked liked.

They're asking religious people a hypothetical question, why would the original poster ask a question and then answer it themselves lol.

@SatanBurger It didn't sound like a hypothetical question, she was asking if she could use the same stand/premise as religiouis folk do.

I'm asking her to provide evidence for her claim since she's making it. I'd suggest you read more carefully before replying.

@xRedx [quote]I'd suggest you read more carefully before replying. [/quote]

I suggest you learn reading comprehension. A claim is usually something the author believes as true, it was a hypothetical using the same logic that religious people use in order to justify existence of God for the sake of debate.

Technically it is religious people's claim and not the original posters as there's no claim there to begin with because that's not why it was proposed.

I do love linguistics for this reason alone :)

@SatanBurger
[quote]I do love linguistics for this reason alone :)[/quote]

You can't read comprehension, it's the ability to understand and grasp mentally. I can only imagine if you didn't like linguistics 🤭
Also, the question was if she could use the same argument or position as religious folk do in regards to the bible/God. That's not a hypothetical stance. It is not a fictional example as she referenced real life accounts.

Technically it's not, it is her claim as she gave the specific criteria on her position. It appears you have a tenuous grasp on linguistics and basic comprehension skills 🙂

@xRedx It's not a claim because it isn't their belief to begin with, it's using someone else's belief system so no claim there ;)

The answer is that god making everything like grass could be said the same for aliens or time traveling humans since there's no proof, both are plausible as the flying spaghetti monster.

Just admit that it puts holes in fundamentalists logic and that's why you are avoiding your own individual answer by red herring this debate to death lmao.

@SatanBurger
She's asking if she can use the same stance as religious people do, but with her own criteria making it her claim. No theirs, she's merely trying to justify what she said with another groups stance. Do you understand that or do you want me to simplify it even further? There's nothing hypothetical about it since there's no "what if" approach and it's based on nonfiction statements from religious people. You seem rather distant from your original thought on the matter.

You're going off topic with your assumptions or misunderstanding but that's okay. Not everyone is proficient in basic English lmao 🤭

Have a good day 👌

@xRedx Lmao no you just don't want to answer the question for the reason I stated.

As for the rest, I have to assume you're trolling that's the best compliment I can give you because otherwise.. 😂

@xRedx Yes, that assertion would have to be proven, same as the assertion that an eternal, invisible, all-powerful being is responsible for the apparent design we observe. The point is that Pikachu's assertion isn't any more or less plausible than the theistic one.

@xRedx

Yes, if i claimed that this was the truth then i would bear the burden of proof just as the theist does.
But as i'm sure you're aware, the rejection of the claim "god is real" is frequently met with "prove god is not real".
My question is, am i as justified in asking you to disprove my future human/alien claim as you are to ask me to disprove a god claim.