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This is for you unbeliever in Jesus Christ! Please answer this question, I reallywant to know, if it is true that the Bible is true would you believe? [Spirituality & Religion]

1. YES
2. NO
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Kwek00 · 41-45, M
@Harriet03 That's also pretty reblious of you 😅
Harriet03 · 41-45, F
@Kwek00 I haven't even started!!!!! 😖
Carazaa · F
@Kwek00 See I think you at least you realize that it is stupid to be rebelling against a God who's values are the way they are! Because it doesn't get us far!
Kwek00 · 41-45, M
@Harriet03 I'm not sure if everyone understood the implications of the premise... but it could be me.
Kwek00 · 41-45, M
@Carazaa If the world of J.R.R. Tolkien is true... then it would also not be so smart to push that ring on your finger. 😅

But you are talking in terms of the fantasy world. While other people seem to be rebelling in to thinking in these fantasy terms you use at the beginning of your question. But I'm trying to be consistent. If we for a fact knew it to be true, it wouldn't be smart to resist the truth. It would go against everything I argued for up until now.

but we aren't in that fantasy reality you are talking about. The only people that are stuck in that world is religious folks. 😅

We should actually ask you the question: "what if we know for sure that the bible ain't right, would you reevaluate your religious position"?
Carazaa · F
@Kwek00 Yes Absolutely, Yes! I am not into fantasy! Well not most days 😉!
Kwek00 · 41-45, M
@Carazaa See, that's just as ridiculous as saying that if the bible is objectively true, that you would not follow it. Because you would be objectively wrong.

While in a world that you know the bible is objectively false, following it would make you objectively wrong.

What's smart about those positions? It's pretty much advocating in favor of ignorance.
Carazaa · F
@Kwek00 I didn't say that. I said I follow the Bible. There are things that are symbolic in the Bible. That is the reason it is worth studying! But don't twist my words please!
Kwek00 · 41-45, M
@Carazaa I'm not sure how I twisted annything. How did I twist annything?
Carazaa · F
@Harriet03 See I knew it. You have too much at stake, for nothing!
Carazaa · F
@Kwek00 I never said that I don't obey the Bible. The Jews did have another relationship to God when God was writing the Bible.
Harriet03 · 41-45, F
@Carazaa Me & god parted ways when I was 6, the same week as I split from Santa.
I was gutted about Santa!! 😩
Kwek00 · 41-45, M
@Carazaa I think you didn't read what I said? Or read it in a serious biased way? Or I have some ambiguity in there that I don't understand 😳

I also find it weird that God was writing the bible.
Kwek00 · 41-45, M
@Harriet03 I feel your pain... I actually was gutted too, and called mom and dad a bunch of liars. 👫

In one way it's also pretty nice to have childish fantasies, and see people all happy about indulging in fantasies. On the other hand... it's a serious breach of trust.
Harriet03 · 41-45, F
@Kwek00 I did the same at Sunday school!
Kwek00 · 41-45, M
@Harriet03 I never did that... but we did had a lot of fun at sunday school 😂. We did that in the chamber that belongs to the priest in church.

Sometimes we went early, and when we saw a cat, we made the cat come to us. Then we grabbed it and put into the church. If you caught 3 or 4 cats in half an hour, they make quite the racket when you are indulging in sunday school. We seriously goofed around during those 2 years.
Carazaa · F
@Kwek00 I said that if the Bible is not true I would not follow it. If the Bible is true I follow it and believe that God knows best. And he has shown me enough times that he is real!
Kwek00 · 41-45, M
@Carazaa Okay, then it was me that mis interpretated the "yes, absolutely yes" part of your answer.

I'm still amazed about the "I don't do in fantasies" kinda thing, since it's seriously paradoxical to a lot of the stuff you post on here.
Carazaa · F
@Kwek00 I am super analytical and I am in reality most of the time!
Kwek00 · 41-45, M
@Carazaa Thats pretty much what everyone believes that considers something real. That however doesn't guarantee that what you consider real is real. If you want to be sure, you should at least try to evaluate the opposition of what you consider to be real. Something believers can't do, because if you accept that "believe" is a thing, criticising the underlieing structures of what you accept to believe, are out of the window. That's what dogma does to people, no matter how annalytical you are.
Carazaa · F
@Kwek00 Did you read my post on how God answers prayers?
Kwek00 · 41-45, M
@Carazaa Did you read my reply on how much that made sense? And how full of self fulfilling prophecy at least one of those post were?
Carazaa · F
@Kwek00 Yes but I will re read tomorrow. It was nice talking with you. Have to get some sleep Good night @Harriet03
Kwek00 · 41-45, M
@Carazaa sweet dreams
Carazaa · F
@Harriet03 Sorry that you believed the lie about Santa.🥺 See I never did. I knew there was no Santa immediately when Dad disappeared every time Santa appeared. I was analytical at 4 or 5. My sister on the other hand even though she is super smart but doesn't analyze and logically come to the same conclusions as I usually do never connected all the dots and she too was heartbroken when she was told Santa was really Dad all dressed up.