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Budwick · 70-79, M
[quote]Why did god make two different "kinds" of animal with such startlingly similar anatomy when some of them don't even use that anatomy?[/quote]
God is truly a marvel, am I right?
I mean, this is just one of zillions of questions you have no clue how to answer.
For all we know, you may be asking the wrong questions entirely!
I mean, God knows when a single sparrow falls from the sky.
You have no idea how many are even here, or how exactly they got here! Maybe one of those 'missing links'.
I think it's wonderful of you to remind everyone of God, just days before Easter - when we celebrate the resurrection of Jesus Christ our Lord and Savior.
God is truly a marvel, am I right?
I mean, this is just one of zillions of questions you have no clue how to answer.
For all we know, you may be asking the wrong questions entirely!
I mean, God knows when a single sparrow falls from the sky.
You have no idea how many are even here, or how exactly they got here! Maybe one of those 'missing links'.
I think it's wonderful of you to remind everyone of God, just days before Easter - when we celebrate the resurrection of Jesus Christ our Lord and Savior.
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CookieLuvsBunny · 31-35, F
@Budwick
God is a marvel of the human imagination
God is a marvel of the human imagination
Budwick · 70-79, M
@CookieLuvsBunny It's OK, I understand.
If you can't explain it - it's not real.
If you can't explain it - it's not real.
CookieLuvsBunny · 31-35, F
@Budwick
No, what you describe is a common Christian fallacy
No, what you describe is a common Christian fallacy
Budwick · 70-79, M
@CookieLuvsBunny [quote]a common Christian fallacy[/quote]
To an atheist / non-believer, I can see how you might think that.
I must be frustrating for you guys.
To an atheist / non-believer, I can see how you might think that.
I must be frustrating for you guys.
@Budwick
Well not for [i]my[/i] purposes but for the purpose of seeking the answer with the most [i]explanatory power[/i].
You'll agree with me that "god did it for reasons" does not have the same explanatory power for this evidence which is boasted by evolution with common descent.
Although i suppose i shouldn't say that god's non-existence fits better. A non bible literalist interpretation wherein god created animals via the mechanism of evolution fits equally well.
Well not for [i]my[/i] purposes but for the purpose of seeking the answer with the most [i]explanatory power[/i].
You'll agree with me that "god did it for reasons" does not have the same explanatory power for this evidence which is boasted by evolution with common descent.
Although i suppose i shouldn't say that god's non-existence fits better. A non bible literalist interpretation wherein god created animals via the mechanism of evolution fits equally well.
CookieLuvsBunny · 31-35, F
@Budwick
No. I see the same plays out of the same playbook so much I usually know how the conversation is going to go
No. I see the same plays out of the same playbook so much I usually know how the conversation is going to go
Budwick · 70-79, M
@CookieLuvsBunny [quote]I usually know how the conversation is going to go[/quote]
Wow! That sounds almost supernatural!
Wow! That sounds almost supernatural!
CookieLuvsBunny · 31-35, F
@Budwick 😉
@Budwick
[quote]Actually God does.[/quote]
Sorry... so what was the god-based answer for the question in this thread?
I remember that the naturalistic one was that modern birds share an evolutionary ancestry with theropod dinosaurs and so it's not strange or even surprising that they should share some phenotypic features.
What was the god answer, again?
Point proven
[quote]Actually God does.[/quote]
Sorry... so what was the god-based answer for the question in this thread?
I remember that the naturalistic one was that modern birds share an evolutionary ancestry with theropod dinosaurs and so it's not strange or even surprising that they should share some phenotypic features.
What was the god answer, again?
Point proven
Budwick · 70-79, M
@Pikachu [quote]What was the god answer, again?[/quote]
"So God created the great creatures of the sea and every living thing with which the water teems and that moves about in it, according to their kinds, and every winged bird according to its kind. And God saw that it was good."
"So God created the great creatures of the sea and every living thing with which the water teems and that moves about in it, according to their kinds, and every winged bird according to its kind. And God saw that it was good."
CookieLuvsBunny · 31-35, F
Carazaa · F
@CookieLuvsBunny same species I think!
Budwick · 70-79, M
@CookieLuvsBunny [quote]What is a "kind?"[/quote]
Well, it';s supposed to be a secret - among Christians, I luv bunnies too, so I'll make an exception. [Kinds - Presbyterians, Methodist, etc.] OK, bad joke.
I think Caraza has it right - species.
Well, it';s supposed to be a secret - among Christians, I luv bunnies too, so I'll make an exception. [Kinds - Presbyterians, Methodist, etc.] OK, bad joke.
I think Caraza has it right - species.
@Carazaa @Budwick
[quote]species.[/quote]
Unlikely.
Consider the story of noah's ark. God commanded noah to put between two and seven of each kind of animal on the ark. Since we are given the dimensions of the ark we know it would be utterly, absurdly impossible to place at least two members of each [i]species[/i] inside.
"Kind" must then refer to higher taxonomic level. This becomes a little problematic if we deny evolution since animals are meant to reproduce only after their own kind and this would necessarily involve some fairly significant changes over successive generations.
[quote]species.[/quote]
Unlikely.
Consider the story of noah's ark. God commanded noah to put between two and seven of each kind of animal on the ark. Since we are given the dimensions of the ark we know it would be utterly, absurdly impossible to place at least two members of each [i]species[/i] inside.
"Kind" must then refer to higher taxonomic level. This becomes a little problematic if we deny evolution since animals are meant to reproduce only after their own kind and this would necessarily involve some fairly significant changes over successive generations.
Carazaa · F
@Pikachu God brought the animals to Noah, and the arc had many stories. I think it is not absurd. The animals were small probably too. There was also many animals in the water that survived the flood. Of course God could have done some changes to the animals, some adaptations, for different climates etc. later, but I think there was definitely a flood, and God did it because of mans sins. And since you brought up Noah's arc. It says in the Bible that Jesus will come back when it is like the days of Noah. So a bigger question for me is, Are we like the days of Noah now? And if so how? And are we ready for his return?
CookieLuvsBunny · 31-35, F
@Pikachu @Budwick
That was why I asked. I've never been given a satisfactory answer. The term "Kind" is used in Noah's ark narrative but that "kind" couldn't mean species. But, if it is a higher taxonomic category, i.e Genus, that would preclude reproduction within the kind and necessitate evolution
That was why I asked. I've never been given a satisfactory answer. The term "Kind" is used in Noah's ark narrative but that "kind" couldn't mean species. But, if it is a higher taxonomic category, i.e Genus, that would preclude reproduction within the kind and necessitate evolution
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