The evidence that evolution has occurred is overwhelming. To only thing creation can offer are a bunch of guesses about why god decided to do x. [Spirituality & Religion]

@KYLakeDiver

Um....yes?

@Pikachu Too much for evolution to handle.

@KYLakeDiver

Nope

@KYLakeDiver It is way easier for me to believe that a God made all this on purpose instead of believing life just happened. Even when you got a corpse you still got a lot of design but we can't put life in a corpse. If we can't do it on purpose then how the hell you think life just happen on accident? No way dude. Something powerful made all this happen on purpose. I wager you just dont like the thought of a god that might send us to hell if the bible is true. 10 x 1 I got that bet.

@KYLakeDiver You're referring to abiogenesis, whereas this thread is about evolution

@KYLakeDiver

I'll wager you're right

@KYLakeDiver

And that, my friend, is a perfect example of the logical fallacy known as an argument from incredulity.
You personally don't see how such things could arise without a creator and you feel that this is sufficient justification to reject explanations which do not require a creator.

But here's the thing. You can find it easier to believe in a creator if you want but it doesn't dispute the evidence that evolution has in fact occurred.

[quote]. I wager [/quote]

lol then pay up. I don't decide what i believe based on what i want to be true. In fact i can't. Maybe you can.

@AlienZipper

lol then you better pay up too, my dude.

@Pikachu You should visit the creation museum in Kentucky. It was awesome. You make it sound like science doesn't support a creator because animals evolve. That isn't true. We are designed to adapt like any decent machine that we might make in the future when we can design them. Adaptations a proof of creation, not a proof of life just happening. Sorry man. Good luck to ya

@Pikachu

Tell me how this world got here in the first place, and we'll go from there...dude

@AlienZipper

Why? What does that have to do with evolution?

@Pikachu You are the fella that tied origins to evolution in your original post.

@KYLakeDiver

God could certainly have created using evolution as the mechanism.
Yup. No arguments there. Although it's an unnecessary postulate.

[quote] Adaptations a proof of creation[/quote]

Is it?
Ok. How do adaptations [i]prove[/i] creation?

@Pikachu I believe in adaptation and thats a big part of evolution but the fact that we adapt doesn't disprove creation. It just shows how well everything is designed. Awesome

@Pikachu

Because evolution claims that we evolved from some primordial soup on planet Earth. Conditions for life to evolve would have had to be just right for it to evolve.

That has everything to do with it.

@KYLakeDiver

You can believe that if you want. I was interested in your claim about it proving creation.
How does adaptation prove creation?

@AlienZipper

[quote]Conditions for life to evolve would have had to be just right for it to evolve. [/quote]

Obviously. One would hardly expect life to evolve on a planet where it was impossible for life to evolve lol.

But the subject of this thread is the undeniable evidence that evolution has occurred, not how life began.
Evolution describes how life diversified, not its origins.

So what does your question about origins have to do with the evidence that evolution has since occurred?

@Pikachu Because you simply cannot see a complex machine in a world that suffers from entropy and believe it just acquired life from nothing. We got all the best conditions for life and I don't see 1 person that after a few weeks in the morge is gonna just start living again. The Bible says God breathed life into us. How else is something that has no life gonna just live all of a sudden? No way! Not goin to argue about it. Adaptation shows more design. Thats all I was gonna say lol

@Pikachu

Sorry, but the evidence for evolution is not undeniable.

And most evolutionists don't want to talk about origins of life.

Why is that? Hmmm?

@KYLakeDiver Apparently you want to persist in talking about abiogenesis rather than about evolution, so perhaps we should first define 'life'.

I offer 'a self-sustaining chemical system capable of Darwinian evolution', but perhaps you have a different definition to offer?

@AlienZipper

[quote]Sorry, but the evidence for evolution is not undeniable.[/quote]

Ok. But it's certainly hard to deny lol.
If you disagree then we can discuss some evidence.

[quote]And most evolutionists don't want to talk about origins of life.
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lol my dude...Because (and stop me if i'm repeating myself) they understand that evolution describes how life diversified, not how it began.
I suspect that they also understand that questioning how life began does literally nothing to invalidate the evidence that it has since evolved.
Do you?

@AlienZipper [quote]Why is that?[/quote]

because evolution addresses how life develops and changes once it has begun.

The origin of life (abiogenesis) is a different topic.

We can discuss one or the other (or both if you like), but the two topics are neither equivalent nor interchangeable.

@newjaninev2 You claim that this thread is ONLY about evolution and not about origins but Pikachu started this post by including Creation in his comments. So, first off, youre wrong about that, girl. And if you know so much about how to make life then you gotta share that with a hospital lol

@KYLakeDiver


[quote]So, first off, youre wrong about that, girl.[/quote]

No, she's quite right.

I included creationism in this post by contrasting its explanatory power with that of evolution when describing the evidence.

@newjaninev2 A corpse has a lot of the same chemical systems but theres no CHANCE youre gonna breathe when youre dead awhile