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Be honest: when you read the bible what makes you think it is of divine origin? [Spirituality & Religion]

There was a time in my life where i really wanted to believe and i tried hard to have faith and asked with all my heart that god reveal himself to me. But predictably he did not. And the more i read, the more it became obvious to me that the bible was the work of men.
So base and petty and violent. This was not the work of an enlightened being.

So what makes you feel that the bible is of divine origin?
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JimboUk · 31-35, M
Well as a Christian you dont believe the bible is the literal word of God, that is an Islamic belief.
The bible is a number of stories written by the apostles and their followers (so yes you are correct, the bible was written by men) eye witnesses to the crucifixion and Jesus Christs followers who proclaime he rose from the dead and spread his message.
CookieLuvsBunny · 31-35, F
@JimboUk
From Dr. Bart Ehrman's book [i]Jesus, Interrupted[/i]

A further reality is that all the Gospels were written anonymously, and none of the writers claims to be an eyewitness. Names are attached to the titles of the Gospels ("the Gospel according to Matthew"), but these titles are later additions to the Gospels, provided by editors and scribes to inform readers who the editors thought were the authorities behind the different versions. That the titles are not original to the Gospels themselves should be clear upon some simple reflection. Whoever wrote Matthew did not call it "The Gospel according to Matthew." The persons who gave it that title are telling you who, in their opinion, wrote it. Authors never title their books "according to."

Moreover, Matthew's Gospel is written completely in the third person, about what "they" — Jesus and the disciples — were doing, never about what "we" — Jesus and the rest of us — were doing. Even when this Gospel narrates the event of Matthew being called to become a disciple, it talks about "him," not about "me." Read the account for yourself (Matthew 9:9). There's not a thing in it that would make you suspect the author is talking about himself.
Harriet03 · 41-45, F
@JimboUk Dozens of Gospels, were suppressed.. Why do you think that was? 🤷‍♀️ + there's over 300 commandments, why stick to 10??
Carazaa · F
Born again Christians believe that The Bible is the inspired word of God. (John 1:1) "In the beginning was the word, and the word was God, and "the word became flesh and dwelt among us." Jesus, God almighty, who took the worlds sins on His own shoulders also says "Love your enemies, and pray for those who despitefully use you" "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten son that whosoever believes in Him shall not die but have everlasting life" We can't enter heaven with a single sin. We have all sinned! "All come short of the glory of God" We can't do anything to earn Gods favor. It is what God did for us that will get us to heaven.

Jesus paid for your sins, all of them! No other religion, yoga, Buddah, Mohammad, Krishna, Mother earth, your actions,or anything can wipe your sins away. Only Jesus, God in the flesh.@JimboUk
JimboUk · 31-35, M
@CookieLuvsBunny Are you criticizing Christianity or mischaracterizing history? There are many works attributed to authors such as Shakespeare and even historians like Aristotle and Plato that are ambiguous in authorship.

Look to the Book of John, where the author implies that the book was written by “the disciple whom Jesus loved”. Meaning his followers, the apostles.
You have Eusebius (fourth century)
Papias (first–second century) said that Matthew wrote about Jesus. These are "unbiased" accounts.

You are missing the fact he is writing an story, not an diary based on him but Jesus and his message were paramount.
JimboUk · 31-35, M
@Harriet03 I'm not even going to entertain your mean spirit.
JimboUk · 31-35, M
@Carazaa We are in agreement "Christians believe that The Bible is the inspired word of God"
CookieLuvsBunny · 31-35, F
@JimboUk The Gospels were written in Greek. The disciples spoke Aramaic and were most likely illiterate. The Gospels contain many factual errors, e.g. whoever wrote Mark did not seem to have any grasp of the geography of Palestine.
Harriet03 · 41-45, F
@JimboUk I'm not surprised! You avoid serious debate at all times.. Just preach, preach, preach 🤷‍♀️
JimboUk · 31-35, M
@Harriet03 Serious debate, last time we spoke you accused me of all sorts and with your nasty, vindictive mentality you told me you wish I never have kids. Funny enough a couple of days later I see you write the same horrible garbage to someone else (funny enough an Christian). You can keep that serious debate for yourself and an mirror. 💋
Harriet03 · 41-45, F
@JimboUk All I said was, ' blind faith, is just that blind faith'
That's a terrible thing to pass on to children.. I stand by that..
It's stops kids thinking, exploring & asking questions..
btw, thanks for a wonderful example of your Christian tolerance hun ✌
JimboUk · 31-35, M
@CookieLuvsBunny I have no problem with the church interpreting the book it wrote for itself, to itself.

Did you just question the authenticity of the bible claims and then say "and were most likely illiterate"?
The people of Jesus time placed high value on education as they were mainly Jewish and took the torah very seriously. Jesus himself has been subscribed as a simple carpenter, which would take knowledge and an education.

It is much more reasonable and likely that they got help with writing down their message then that they were illiterate.
CookieLuvsBunny · 31-35, F
@JimboUk The vast majority of people during that time were illiterate. Literacy was the exception not the norm
JimboUk · 31-35, M
@Harriet03 Your understanding of christianity is floored but keep trying to use it lol
JimboUk · 31-35, M
@CookieLuvsBunny of course and the people that walked with God were the norm were they? His followers which spread his message across the world and built a community that last to this day were normal were they?
Harriet03 · 41-45, F
@JimboUk Everything is floored without evidence.. That's my point!! Blind faith is NOT evidence..
What science claims to know, it has evidence for. Christianity does not!!
Your average 10 yr old, will accept that! 🤦‍♀️
Tastyfrzz · 61-69, M
@JimboUk actually, the current understanding is that the gospels were written long after the death of Christ. Paul's writings we're likely before them. Too big of a subject for here. Marcus Borg has several books on the history. He died in 2015. See also the works of Bart Ehrman.
JimboUk · 31-35, M
@Harriet03 Ok, does your mother love you? Prove it to me....
Tastyfrzz · 61-69, M
Do you have faith that you have enough gas in your car to get to Shreveport? No cheating now. Remember, the Lord will provide.
JimboUk · 31-35, M
@Tastyfrzz So enlightening of you. Thanks for that.
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Harriet03 · 41-45, F
@JimboUk My mother doesn't go round telling people, though shalt not do this, though shalt not do that!!
JimboUk · 31-35, M
@Harriet03 I asked you if your mother loves you? Your dishonestly is shining through right now.
JimboUk · 31-35, M
@Harriet03 I guess that was your serious debate, wouldn't even answer an question and full of characterizations. Let's just leave that there.
Harriet03 · 41-45, F
@JimboUk Ask her, not me!!
You have avoided every question I've asked 🤷‍♀️.
This conversation is pointless.. All I have is logic, science, reason & common sense.. You are immune to all 4!
👋
CookieLuvsBunny · 31-35, F
[quote]Well as a Christian you dont believe the bible is the literal word of God, that is an Islamic belief. [/quote]

Really?