I've often encountered the argument from christians that if god isn't real or if evolution is true then how can there be morality? [Spirituality & Religion]

I'd like you to think about that question and posit an answer.
Not an insult, not a criticism. Just think about the question from the perspective that god is not real and see if you can think of an answer to how there could still be morality and moral behaviour.

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OggggO · 36-40, M

Honestly, I think anyone making such a claim is ridiculous. Even in a completely materialistic (in the philosophical sense, not the character flaw) worldview, it’s possible to observe human interaction, reason upon it, and devise a set of rules that promotes the behaviors and qualities one considers desirable. Different people will obviously come to different conclusions based on their individual experiences and priorities, but then that’s exactly what has already happened. Even among the various religions, few if any people are ever expected to achieve perfect knowledge.

Pikachu

@OggggO

[quote] it’s possible to observe human interaction, reason upon it, and devise a set of rules that promotes the behaviors and qualities one considers desirable[/quote]

Right? I've never understood this notion that if there is no divine accountability then you might as well rape, kill and steal to your heart's content.

OggggO · 36-40, M

@Pikachu I believe in divine accountability and I don’t understand it either.