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hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
Do you suppose it would be easier to support evolution if you could just get it started?
@hippyjoe1955
I don't think it would make a difference.
Allow me to illustrate my point using a theory against which you do not have a personal, emotional bias:
The theory of gravitation. You do not need to know how matter came to be in order to observe its interactions.
In the same way you do not need to know how life began in order to observe the evidence which indicates evolution.
If you disagree, feel free to make a specific, reasoned criticism.
Note: this means that calling me clueless and running away will unfortunately not be considered a meaningful response.😁
I don't think it would make a difference.
Allow me to illustrate my point using a theory against which you do not have a personal, emotional bias:
The theory of gravitation. You do not need to know how matter came to be in order to observe its interactions.
In the same way you do not need to know how life began in order to observe the evidence which indicates evolution.
If you disagree, feel free to make a specific, reasoned criticism.
Note: this means that calling me clueless and running away will unfortunately not be considered a meaningful response.😁
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@Pikachu You are assuming facts not in evidence. You assume that a perfect God must make a perfect creation. Except what happens if the Perfect God decides to make a creation that has built in failures? It may be functioning perfectly according to design but not be perfect to a third party. Much like the crew on the warehouse floor of a multibillion dollar company knowing better how to run the company that the person who started it and built it out of nothing are numpties that think an imperfect world means it must not be built by a Perfect God. If you don't know the purpose for which was built you are simply showing your ignorance.
@hippyjoe1955
I don't think i've assumed anything, joe.
I pointed out that it is easier to defend the idea of a fallible god and it is. This does not mean that one cannot imagine reasons why a perfect god would do kind of a shit poor job in some respects.
I'm not sure why you leaped to the conclusion that i'm assuming anything about god.
But i appreciate you conceding the point about evolution being dependent on abiogenesis. Or so i must assume since you neglected to include any rebuttal or criticism of my explanation.
Although i am pleased that you returned to the subject🙂
I don't think i've assumed anything, joe.
I pointed out that it is easier to defend the idea of a fallible god and it is. This does not mean that one cannot imagine reasons why a perfect god would do kind of a shit poor job in some respects.
I'm not sure why you leaped to the conclusion that i'm assuming anything about god.
But i appreciate you conceding the point about evolution being dependent on abiogenesis. Or so i must assume since you neglected to include any rebuttal or criticism of my explanation.
Although i am pleased that you returned to the subject🙂
@hippyjoe1955
Well, i don't know what numpties are, but isn't the entire point of the show Undercover Bosses, that the CEOs don't get how the business actually works and they learn how to improve it?
Just seems like kind of a weak analogy
Much like the crew on the warehouse floor of a multibillion dollar company knowing better how to run the company that the person who started it and built it out of nothing are numpties that think an imperfect world means it must not be built by a Perfect God
Well, i don't know what numpties are, but isn't the entire point of the show Undercover Bosses, that the CEOs don't get how the business actually works and they learn how to improve it?
Just seems like kind of a weak analogy
QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
@hippyjoe1955 Nah, we know it started somehow. That's enough.