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Do you Want Proof God Exists [Spirituality & Religion]

just look ou the window at the glories of nature. consider the perfection of the human body if well cared for, the beauty of the colors f the fish, the sounds of the birds. the vastness of the heavens. now tell me this all just happened accidentally? and explain to me how evolution takes thousands of years but man's brain went from survival mode to creative, reasoning, intelligent thinking in the space of a blink of an eye. and why there is no evidence of horizontal evolution, only vertical. never has there been any proof that an animal, vegetable or man changed for the better unless man intervened and chemically made it happen.

Thousands of scientists disprove evolution by just opening their eyes. the rest just scream the loudest so that's all you can hear.

Yet no one can really believe that that this world, this universe just happened. the math doesn't work, evolution doesn't work, only God works.

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JaggedLittlePill · 46-50, F

No one said it happened accidentally. It is scientific not fantasy. Those birds...that grass...those fish...that water...it all came to be systematically and was changed through the course by natural disasters..scientifically explained events.

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ladycae · 100+, F

@JaggedLittlePill what events? where is the proof?

Pikachu

@ladycae

[quote]where is the proof?[quote][/quote][/quote]

Did we talk about retro viruses yet? I can't recall. That's some pretty damn good evidence right there. And since evidence is proof....

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JaggedLittlePill · 46-50, F

@ladycae

Sorry..I no longer participate in conversations that will go nowhere. You were presented the proof/evidence in school and if you choose to deny that ...no amount of evidence will change your mind. It is called willful ignorance and plenty of people hide behind it now days.

ladycae · 100+, F

@JaggedLittlePill actually no when i went to school evolution was not taught.

JaggedLittlePill · 46-50, F

@ladycae sweetie you are full of shit.

ladycae · 100+, F

@JaggedLittlePill child i am almost twice your age, do you really think we talked about evolution back then in school. open yourself to the fact that the world was vastly different then. what I know about evolution i have learned in the past year through reading.

JaggedLittlePill · 46-50, F

@ladycae I am aware of your age..I am also aware that despite the fact you may not have been taught it in school, if you are capable of using the internet in this capacity you are capable enough to be educated on such things.

By the way i am 40 so ..far from a child.

suzie1960 · 61-69, F

@ladycae Why are you being disrespectful by calling a 40 year old woman a "child"? It only weakens your case.

ladycae · 100+, F

@suzie1960 @JaggedLittlePill i'm sorry i meant no disrespect, i just have kids her age. child is a term of endearment when i use it. not a put-down. she told me i was lying when i said we were not taught evolution in school. 50 years ago no one at least not in my small town talked or even mentioned evolution. why not question her on telling me i am full of shit when i said it wasn't taught. . things were very different back then. in fact, tbh the world has totally changed and not for the better. imo.

rob19 · M

@ladycae There is a wealth of evidence to support evolution. Many christians have claimed they have evidence of their god but none has ever presented any. I'm forced, therefore, to conclude that such evidence doesn't exist, leaving evolution as the only currently valid explanation for the diversity of life.

LadyGrace

@ladycae No need to apologize to overly sensitive people, Ladycae. You said nothing wrong. You are correct. They did not teach evolution to us in school. We learned it on our own. God, the author and creator of this universe, doesn’t believe in it, and he’s the final authority.

ladycae · 100+, F

@rob19 you, however, cannot and do not speak for me. you may make your own choices and also your own consequences. i, on the other hand, do have faith that God exists and of that, i have no doubt. he is the most incredible thing in my life and i would never, ever turn my back on him. you make your own choices, but please do not try to make mine. you can niether prove nor disprove the wind, god is exactly the same. i will pray for you.

Pikachu

@ladycae

[quote][quote][quote]you can niether prove nor disprove the wind,[/quote][/quote][/quote]

........what?
What do you mean by that? I'm happy to agree that you'd have a hard time disproving the wind but it's a highly measurable and therefore provable phenomenon...

Fernie · F

@ladycae why must believers always end with "i'll pray for you?" when talking to a non-believer? We clearly don't want or need your prayers. You know that yet you say it. I highly doubt you'll actually do it...I think when people end the conversation with that, they think they've won...or they are right...so arrogant. Ya got zero proof

suzie1960 · 61-69, F

@Fernie I see that as a final dig when they realise they've lost the debate. They know it's offensive but we're big enough to ignore it.

ladycae · 100+, F

@suzie1960 in what way have i been offensive?. i continually say you have a choice and that's cook. i am just a messenger. it is your choice whether or not you receive the message. but i also have every right to present my truth as anyone else. if you don't like it you can always choose not to read it.

ladycae · 100+, F

@Fernie i say i'll pray for you because i will and have. i pray for everyone i encounter in this section. does it hurt you that i do?you don't believe so why should it matter. to me it is an act of love.

suzie1960 · 61-69, F

@ladycae I find it offensive for you to say you'll pray for someone who has made it clear they don't share your beliefs. As you think it's acceptable I'll repay the favour by asking a Satanist friend to cast a spell to help you find Satan.

ladycae · 100+, F

@suzie1960 yu are welcome to do that if you choose. but to the best of my knowledge i have never said 'll pray for you in particular. so why are you so upset? no one forces you to read this section but you do. why when it offends you so?

suzie1960 · 61-69, F

@ladycae You said you pray for everyone you encounter in this section. I meet that criterion. I respond to christian posts in the same way as christians respond to those from Atheists.

ladycae · 100+, F

@suzie1960 but before that i never said i would pray for you before you made your comment about being offended. and i don't respond to posts from atheists unless they specifically address them to me because their posts have no effect on me. yet Christians posts have an effect on you. you can't ignore them. why is that?

suzie1960 · 61-69, F

@ladycae I didn't say I was offended by you, I said christians know it's offensive to tell non-christians that that they will pray for them.

I respond to the misinformation contained in christian posts. Those that completely misrepresent the "Theory of Evolution by Natural Selection" for example or attempt to dismiss scientific facts by saying "it's only a theory", when they don't even know what the word means in its scientific sense.

ladycae · 100+, F

suzie, you keep changing the topics. so obviously you just want to debate. i'm not into that at all. i am just aa messenger. accept or not. it's up to you. i wish you the best. i will leave you one evolutionary tidbit though that even Celine agrees with. evolution has no idea how life started. check into that. it might surprise you..

suzie1960 · 61-69, F

@ladycae The Theory of Evolution by Natural Selection doesn't deal with abiogenesis. Anyone who thinks it does or is intended to either doesn't understand it or is deliberately misrepresenting it.

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