Women have lost a huge right to healthcare while the rights of mass murderers remain.
We are in the Bizarro World.
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FreeSpirit1 · 51-55, F
@FreeSpirit1
Um.., you just agreed that women lost a right to healthcare.
States can choose to allow it or not but it is no longer a [i]right[/i] that a woman will get to make that choice about her own body.
Um.., you just agreed that women lost a right to healthcare.
States can choose to allow it or not but it is no longer a [i]right[/i] that a woman will get to make that choice about her own body.
FreeSpirit1 · 51-55, F
@Pikachu Yes, States can decide.
If the Federal Government wants to make abortion constitutionally protected they can, Roe v Wade wasn't a law it was a decision, prior judges created a constitutional right to abortion and current judges disagreed.
The Supreme Court took away no one's right to an abortion, they said it's up to States not the federal government....unless a law is passed saying otherwise, they did the same thing as the prior court.
If the Federal Government wants to make abortion constitutionally protected they can, Roe v Wade wasn't a law it was a decision, prior judges created a constitutional right to abortion and current judges disagreed.
The Supreme Court took away no one's right to an abortion, they said it's up to States not the federal government....unless a law is passed saying otherwise, they did the same thing as the prior court.
@FreeSpirit1
By overturning a decision that elective abortion is to be legally available to all women, they took away the [i]right[/i].
A woman in a state which decides that they don't want to allow abortion no longer has that right to personal autonomy.
[quote]they did the same thing as the prior court.[/quote]
No they did not. They made a decision on the same issue but they [i]took away[/i] a right to personal autonomy rather than recognizing it.
By overturning a decision that elective abortion is to be legally available to all women, they took away the [i]right[/i].
A woman in a state which decides that they don't want to allow abortion no longer has that right to personal autonomy.
[quote]they did the same thing as the prior court.[/quote]
No they did not. They made a decision on the same issue but they [i]took away[/i] a right to personal autonomy rather than recognizing it.
FreeSpirit1 · 51-55, F
@Pikachu [quote]elective abortion is to be legally available to all women[/quote]
The Supreme court didn't order abortions to be available to all women, they said abortion is a constitutionally protected right, nothing about who and how it should be performed.
And the argument I'm making is the same one Ruth Bader Ginsburg said herself. it was bad law and bound to be overturned because it wasn't enacted properly, it was just a decision, not a legally passed law.
The Supreme court didn't order abortions to be available to all women, they said abortion is a constitutionally protected right, nothing about who and how it should be performed.
And the argument I'm making is the same one Ruth Bader Ginsburg said herself. it was bad law and bound to be overturned because it wasn't enacted properly, it was just a decision, not a legally passed law.
@FreeSpirit1
Sorry, i guess i'm just not seeing the practical difference between those two statements.
Sorry, i guess i'm just not seeing the practical difference between those two statements.
@FreeSpirit1
Right, a decision that will give states the grounds to take away a right that women previously had.
Right, a decision that will give states the grounds to take away a right that women previously had.
FreeSpirit1 · 51-55, F
@Pikachu Like I said, the House and Senate can create a federal abortion law whenever they like, they won't because they like handing off controversy to the courts. If abortion law is so popular it should be easy to enact a law protecting it, right?
As it stands now the court did not say abortion is illegal they said it's not a constitutional right and is a State issue.
As it stands now the court did not say abortion is illegal they said it's not a constitutional right and is a State issue.
@FreeSpirit1
And like i said, the decision that it is not a constitutional right where before it was means inevitably that millions of women will be stripped of that right.
And like i said, the decision that it is not a constitutional right where before it was means inevitably that millions of women will be stripped of that right.