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Keep it real.

I'm a woman. All woman.
I've given birth to my children and breastfed them. I have periods.
I'm no stunner but I think I'm attractive.
I believe women around the world have a right to argue for their women's rights.
Men pretending to be women (let's face it, it's what it really is) shouldn't even begin to think they're anywhere near being a real woman until they've done the above three things in my post.

By all means disagree if you wish, however biological makeup are facts.
That you cannot deny.
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SunshineGirl36-40, F
Do "men pretending to be women" really restrict your rights as a woman or your freedom to fulfill your womanhood? If not, can you not just broaden your horizons to accommodate the welfare of others?

I'm infertile, so I will never tick your first two boxes regarding being a "real woman". I am nevertheless a loving mother and auntie and I do my best 馃槓
Purplerain7841-45, F
@SunshineGirl Obviously there's some acceptions to being a woman. You've missed my point though. I'm being real and logical. No amount of hormones or genital surgery will change your actual genetic makeup. Why is that so difficult for some to grasp?
I don't get it 馃し
@SunshineGirl Yes, yes they do, and yes, I am going to 'splain to you, because it seems as though you, a woman, appears to be completely clueless to your own sex's plight. Men pretending to be women, the fakers, are encroaching on every single area of girls' and women's private and athletic territories, which includes taking hard earned trophies, records and other things after years long training, while the fakers barely try. The fakers are going into locker rooms at public pools and schools, as well as other athletic venues, they are invading public restrooms, and even homeless shelters for women. Doesn't all of that scare you that grown men that are pretending to be women are exposing themselves to female children in public pool locker rooms? You are actually alright with that?
SunshineGirl36-40, F
@Purplerain78 Right, well you've expanded your definition to recognise me as a "real woman" and that wasn't too painful.

What is wrong with a little toleration? I don't fully understand the subject, but I do appreciate that it is of importance to a small minority of people who have been historically persecuted and villified for their choices. If somebody's actions are not harming me I will support their right to act with as freedom as I myself enjoy, even if I do not personally agree with or like those choices.
@SunshineGirl Toleration? Full grown men that are faking it are exposing themselves, under the protection of antidiscrimination laws, to female children, do you not find that disgusting?
SunshineGirl36-40, F
@NativePortlander1970 In my experience, non-trans men have done a pretty good job throughout history of encroaching on all spheres of female life. Would you support discriminating against men in general for this? Any instances of physical and sexual abuse are unacceptable, but there is no causal link between trans people and illegal activity of the sort that you describe.
SunshineGirl36-40, F
@NativePortlander1970 No, they really are not 馃槓
Purplerain7841-45, F
@SunshineGirl I am tolerant to the point where the trans community decide that breastfeeding is chest feeding that other known terms should be changed to suit them.
We predominantly still live in a man's world. Women's rights shouldn't have to be twisted in order to please men (small minority) who choose to live as women.
Women fought and are still fighting for equality. Trans people make the changes through choice, they're free to live in which ever way makes them happy, but when they preach for changes which disturb what has been known for years, and doesn't need changing, that's when they're crossing a line.
@SunshineGirl This is just a new form of it, and yes, I would support it as there is zero discrimination against speaking out against the fakers. I know real Transpeople, they do not actively pull stunts like these, I am a member of the community as a dysphoric myself, I am speaking out about the fakers and the perverts pretending and hiding behind the laws protecting them.
@Purplerain78 Real Transpeople aren't the ones militantly pursing those things, it's the pathetic modern woke neoliberal leftie losers taking it on themselves, coopting it to suit their own agendas of self important idealogies, taking over.
Purplerain7841-45, F
@NativePortlander1970 Yep, and it's unfair on those who wish to just live happily without all this backlash from those completely changing the dynamic when there's no need to.
@Purplerain78 Exactly. Some time ago I was explaining to one of the leftist militant "allies" why most, if not almost all of us, stayed in the closet back in the day, I was still called a transphobe, by a NON member of the community, when I told them their militancy is only making the violence worse, I was accused of victim blaming, they are all deranged.
Purplerain7841-45, F
@NativePortlander1970 Sorry to hear that. People are so quick to brand those who speak out. Change is only good when it benefits all. If it's only to please a small minority, who have warped ideologies of how the trans community should be and then going completely against the grain, it's never going to be fully accepted.
@Purplerain78 It never will be with the way the militants are doing it. Early this year, after I got my twitter back when Musk unbanned us, I befriended a post op real Transwoman, all she wanted was to live her life in anonymity and peace, yet every time she turned around the militants were exposing her, this was even touched on during the third and final season on Designated Survivor with Kiefer Sutherland when Netflix took it over from ABC, the Trans sister in law wanted to keep in the shadows, but Kiefer's president character forced her out.
Purplerain7841-45, F
@NativePortlander1970 Yeah I watched that. It's wrong. So many do not want the attention. People need to respect this.
@Purplerain78 The militants will never give us that respect, much like how antifa coopted BLM and gave them a bad stain from their own violent actions.
SunshineGirl36-40, F
@NativePortlander1970 Phew, that's a lot of militancy for so early on a Saturday! I wish you both a peaceful weekend 馃槍
@SunshineGirl We're slammed with it on a constant basis, even when we're sleeping we'll wake up with it in our faces.
Elessar26-30, M
@Purplerain78 [quote]I am tolerant to the point where the trans community decide that breastfeeding is chest feeding that other known terms should be changed to suit them. [/quote]
Terms change all the time, nobody forces you to change your lexicon if you don't want to. You're just finding excuses to be hateful towards a minority that you evidently can't help whining about.

[quote]unfair on those who wish to just live happily without all this backlash [/quote]
No, it isn't. You can live your life without bothering about transgenders altogether, it's your and only your decision to whine about them constantly. Nobody forces you to, again.

[quote]Change is only good when it benefits all. If it's only to please a small minority[/quote]
If it benefits some and is totally neutral on the rest, it's still a net positive change. Disabled people, for instance, is another minority; and eliminating architectonic barriers a change that only benefits that one minority, while being practically neutral for the rest of the population. It's still perceived as an overall positive change by the absolute majority of the population, even those who don't benefit from it. Nobody but you believes that "change is only good if it benefits all"; change is good so long as it benefits more people than it negatively affects, and society being accepting towards transgenderism doesn't negatively affect you in any way.

[quote]So many do not want the attention. People need to respect this.[/quote]
They evidently do, when all they do is making inflammatory posts about the subject all the time they're online.