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On red pilled conservatives and the Matrix.

I laugh because plot twist, they are the Matrix. They are usually the ones who think they're red pilled because they are traditionalists and right winged so they "think" they're being edge lords. However, the director said the Matrix movie was relating to trans gendered rights. That trans people "wake up" to realize they're in the matrix and take the red pill while everyone is still in the Matrix. The Matrix essentially doesn't understand new information and only wants old information that is unchanged. The Matrix doesn't accept things outside of its own existence because it literally "cannot" understand and doesn't have that type of intelligence, which is essentially red pilled conservative dogma.

Isn't it ironic when the Matrix thinks it's not the Matrix? Lmfao. Almost as if they've tricked themselves into thinking they are actually independent beings capable of independent thought, cute.
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Alison · 22-25, F Best Comment
The matrix is actually a trans metaphor🤷‍♀️
Heavenlywarrior · 36-40, M
@SatanBurger I wish I could do the copy thing … but it’s all good.
Honestly sorry if I offended I or anyone who is trans… I have my own views and y’all have every right to have your own views….plus I have a hermaphrodite friend. And we got close had all types of sexual conversations. So I’m not just bashing anyone.

But I’m just going to keep my views on the matrix being about breaking from a mental prison ….
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@Heavenlywarrior There's nothing that states you can't take other meanings from the movie itself. I'm sure you can view it that way because its message is the same regardless if one is trans or not.
Heavenlywarrior · 36-40, M
@SatanBurger

hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
You have no idea what a conservative is.
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@SatanBurger Such a lack of nuance on your part. Leftism is a mental disorder.
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@hippyjoe1955 That's nice, still gaslighting though.
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SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@Honko Because you put so much emphasis on procreation which is a misunderstanding of evolution and its complexities. Then to along with that, you make a bunch of overly generalized assumptions that you can't prove to go along with your phobic nonsense. Saying all gay people are defective, you just have bad arguments because you're a bad faith actor from the get go.

Phobias don't always mean fear, it could mean disgust too. Disgust activates in the same region in the brain as fear and both are related to threat signals. You're judging others because you're phobic and irrational.
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@SatanBurger Yes it's always amusing to me when people to try to couch their homophobia in rationalism. It is inherently irrational. Your problem with gay people does not stem from evolution or procreation, it stems from your personal aversion to them, which you are trying to rationalize and legitimize, but ultimately it comes to feelings, the things the "facts, not feelings" crowd loves to eschew but cannot escape from.
Jackaloftheazuresand · 26-30, M
I'm pretty sure that was a retcon but if we want to take what Wachowski has said as gospel then we can look to her other words "There's a letting go process because it's entering into public dialogue," "I like that," and "That we can talk about something in new ways and in new light." I see that as being open to alternative interpretation.
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@Jackaloftheazuresand The co-director herself is trans. I'm not saying that right leaners can't open it to interpretation themselves, (not saying you meant it that way,) just that they try to uphold the majority views as the way it's always been and then think of themselves as not part of the Matrix is silly. The whole red pill community is mostly right winged and anti trans which is ironic considering.

https://www.bbc.com/news/newsbeat-53692435

"We had the character of Switch - who was a character who would be a man in the real world and then a woman in the Matrix."

Lilly doesn't know "how present my transness was in the background of my brain as we were writing" The Matrix.
Jackaloftheazuresand · 26-30, M
@SatanBurger The red pill only creates an opportunity to see the matrix for what it is. The outside is an unrealized self, it does not exist. Things can only exist within and the matrix is limitless. One can't leave. no matter what they choose to believe.
GeistInTheMachine · 31-35, M
The irony of the heavy self-righteousness in American politics is that neither side of the duopoly realizes they are the controlled opposition of the other.

Americans are conditioned to hate nuance, so it boils down to red/blue binary.
ViciDraco · 41-45, M
This is true of a lot of movies for them. They are so wrapped up in envisioning themselves as the hero fighting a corrupt system that they fail to see that they actually ideologically side with the villains if they were to stop and think about it for a couple minutes.

The big difference in what they like or hate seems to be whether the villains are couched in metaphors or not.
SilkandLace2 · 46-50, M
Omigosh, my routine is VERY similar!!🥰
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SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@SW-User You could just ask for clarification.
Torsten · 36-40, M
how on earth was the matrix movie relating to trans rights? haha i swear people try to make everything about trans people lately
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Torsten · 36-40, M
@SatanBurger there was no trans message in it though. Watch the movie again. There is nothing there. Funny how all of a sudden its about trans rights during a time where everything is about trans people to a certain group of people.
I see this as nothing but cheap pandering and attention seeking
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@Torsten You simply don't know better than the trans directors on what they meant back when they wrote their movie. There is a trans message in there, the trans directors said so and even before that, people picked up on it.

I feel like, you're trying to challenge me because it involves your bias against trans people but you're too dense to understand what you're trying to challenge me on. I feel like you have better things to do than to confuse yourself over there.
Heavenlywarrior · 36-40, M
The directors stole the movie from a black women named Sophia Stewart … she’s since won in court and her rights to the movie and it “DOES NOT” mean anything about trannys rights.
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@Heavenlywarrior Here's also another paragraph from same court case:

She also failed to adduce evidence rebutting the expert witness reports of Mark Rose proffered by defendants. Rose opined that neither the Terminator films nor the Matrix films were substantially similar to Stewart's Third Eye literary materials. The fact that plaintiff's admissions conclusively established that there was no substantial or striking similarity between the works, and the fact that Rose's opinion was uncontroverted also necessitated the entry of summary judgment in defendants' favor. 8. Rule 60(b) also authorizes relief from a judgment or final order where a party proffers newly discovered evidence; where the judgment is a product of fraud, misrepresentation, or other misconduct; where the judgment is void; or where it has been satisfied or discharged or for any other reason justifying relief. FED.R.CIV.PROC. 60(b). None of these bases is relevant here. Stewart has proffered no new evidence, and does not allege fraud or misconduct.


https://docshare.tips/matrix-and-terminator-copyright-rulings_5750afd2b6d87f7fb08b49fb.html
Heavenlywarrior · 36-40, M
@SatanBurger typical
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@Heavenlywarrior Just in case you missed the judgement in that court case:

She also failed to adduce evidence rebutting the expert witness reports of Mark Rose proffered by defendants. Rose opined that neither the Terminator films nor the Matrix films were substantially similar to Stewart's Third Eye literary materials. The fact that plaintiff's admissions conclusively established that there was no substantial or striking similarity between the works, and the fact that Rose's opinion was uncontroverted also necessitated the entry of summary judgment in defendants' favor. 8. Rule 60(b) also authorizes relief from a judgment or final order where a party proffers newly discovered evidence; where the judgment is a product of fraud, misrepresentation, or other misconduct; where the judgment is void; or where it has been satisfied or discharged or for any other reason justifying relief. FED.R.CIV.PROC. 60(b). None of these bases is relevant here. Stewart has proffered no new evidence, and does not allege fraud or misconduct.


https://docshare.tips/matrix-and-terminator-copyright-rulings_5750afd2b6d87f7fb08b49fb.html
Heavenlywarrior · 36-40, M
The matrix actually means “womb” the idea came from the Bible 1611 KJV in exodus. This is the accurate truth on “the Matrix” not the bullshit about it dealing with trannys….. trannys stole the script
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@AdaXI Good point, I didn't know any of that. But Sophia managed to fail to produce any evidence anyways so I'm guessing she was just a clout chaser. She saw some similarities and thought she could be a millionaire.
AdaXI · T
@SatanBurger She wrote a book showing the script and her indisputable evidence which mostly consists of things like in her story some God like aliens turn up to earth and say ''watch the heavens, we shall be back'' now Arnie says ''I'll be back'' in the Terminator. Even though the story plots are completely different. Basically if any character says ''be back'' at the end of any sentence no matter how unconnected to the story plot well you're copying her work. The Matrix part works much the same way. She very briefly mentions in the future people play computer games like Pacman and Tron which are conditioning thier minds ready to be soldiers should there be a nuclear war. This is again totally outta context the idea Sophia just thought up the whole matrix concept and the war against the machines and the terminator in one sentence - simply by implying playing games like Pacman is bad for you... Now I don't need to say this really, but that is not solid evidence.😅

I mean it's important to fully know why the case fell through as many people just think it fell through because she couldn't provide evidence that she'd actually sent them the work and they wrongly then just assume that there must of been a strong connection between the story plots, but there isn't any reasonable connection you only have to read the script to realise you ain't winning sweet FA in court. I mean they destroyed her case on every single level like not one piece of her evidence stood up on any level of scrutiny and on top of that she also couldn't prove Wachowskis or Cameron had even seen her work. Like she was meant too have replied to an advert in a national newspaper back in '86 and the Wachowskis said they didn't put an ad in any paper, in fact they were still at school! LMAO!🤣

So yes Sophia Stewart is a complete fraud and she makes a lot of money selling her books peddling this hoax cause people believe what they wanna believe.
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SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@AdaXI Thanks. I didn't know any of that, all I hear from court documents was that she failed to find evidence. She sure figured out a decent scam though, all those suckers willing to believe her. Even after I proved the two people rehashing this myth wrong, they still wanted to believe so she def. figured something out lmfao.

 
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