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Transhumaist question.

For those who prefer, should human sexuality be done away with? Machines could produce a million babies where a man and woman might produce 3 or so or none. Each baby genetically perfect, enhanced even. 10 times smarter, stronger. A life span of 300 years or more. No more disease. Why should we wast our time with this brutal work of reproduction? All the emotional pain of these relationships? Being tied together with someone?
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emiliya · 22-25, F
Reproduction is not brutal. It is easy work.
emiliya · 22-25, F
@HobNoblin “And you can be fired from a job just as soon as you fail to deliver the goods.”

This is if the man or woman are in the relationship for the goods. What you describe is prostitution. Relationships are mountains that we have to climb. They are much more than you think, perhaps the greatest test of all.

“These facts are where the real brutality lay, not in child birth or child rearing or any of that (as brutal as all that is).”

It is not brutal. You are made pregnant, you carry baby for nine to ten months, and you give birth. How is this brutal? The way to give birth is on all fours or in kneeling or squatting position. It allows gravity to do what it needs to do. The lithotomy position is inefficient. It may seem natural to lie on your back when you are in pain, but this instinct becomes cowardice if obeyed. The pain has to be confronted and used. This is why you grab a pillow or any other material, kneel, and squeeze the baby out. He or she comes out in no time.

It seems you are the type of person who wants to avoid pain. What kind of life is this? How does one avoid pain? There is no growth without pain. The shoulders of men who build weigh heavy, but in the end they have a structure standing testament to their strength and perseverance.

“Nature demands evolution , I think that is what's actually going on here and transhumanism is a tool of it. Maybe that's how something with a big brain like a human has evolves, it uses tools. Nature built us that way.”

Nature wants the species to procreate. It does not look for escape or transcendence. This is the idea of man, man who is afraid. It is not nature that cares for “evolution” or the building of tools. It is man who sees what can be made and builds them into tools, and uses them for his good. It is God who built us this way. He made man, and the planet man lives, with all the things that man needs.
HobNoblin · 36-40, M
@emiliya Your view points about wanting pain and suffering for growth seem brutal in themselves. Anything alive wants to avoid pain. It isn't just pain that is the problem here though. It's the risk of death to the mother and child. A machine simply does it better. Why have one child when you can have 10 or a hundred if the need arises. Then you increase your population, your industrial and military potential. You end up stronger and more able to survive. While competing nations women are moaning in pain or having still born children you are having thousands of enhanced children. Stronger, smarter, free of disease and defect. Your civilization is thriving, theirs is full of sickness, crime, weakness of every kind. Also, they're aren't many of them. Who wins in this scenario?
Heartlander · 80-89, M
Didn’t Hitler try this?
HobNoblin · 36-40, M
@Heartlander He tried the old school Gregor Mendel version. This is closer to Brave New World.
Heartlander · 80-89, M
@HobNoblin yea, hard to imagine what he would have done with today’s high tech.
HobNoblin · 36-40, M
@Heartlander Who knows, he might have gotten on some modern psych meds and there wouldn't have been a problem.
Sweetguy024 · 36-40, M
Can I buy some pot from you?
HobNoblin · 36-40, M
@Sweetguy024 Never used it.

 
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