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Republicans don't value truth. There, I said it.

They can keep lying to each other as much as they want because trying to correct them is a hopeless task. 🐘💩
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Folks here can proclaim "bothsidesism" and identify falsehoods from members of both parties. [b]BUT![/b]

Trump was FAR AND AWAY the most DISHONEST president ever. Trump made 30,573 lies & false claims as president
[b]https://news.yahoo.com/trump-made-30-573-false-205400099.html[/b]
Nobody else comes anywhere close.
HoraceGreenley · 56-60, M
@ElwoodBlues
Don't forget your hat
@HoraceGreenley Have you figured out how to account for those 500,000 excess deaths yet?
Have you figured out what a death certificate is yet??

SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
@ElwoodBlues But but but TRRRRUUUUUUUUMMMPPPPPP

@SumKindaMunster Wasssamatta, did you think

death certificates == Trump ???

LOL!!!
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
@ElwoodBlues Of course not, rather I was mocking your constant refrain of bringing the focus back to Trump the moment another politician gets caught in a lie or scandal.
@SumKindaMunster Only that WASN'T what I was doing, LOL!!!

That's another swing and a miss!

SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
@ElwoodBlues Then you should probably change your password and notify the admins....looks like somebody is posting as you...

[quote]Folks here can proclaim "bothsidesism" and identify falsehoods from members of both parties. BUT!

Trump was FAR AND AWAY the most DISHONEST president ever. Trump made 30,573 lies & false claims as president
https://news.yahoo.com/trump-made-30-573-false-205400099.html
Nobody else comes anywhere close.
[/quote]
@SumKindaMunster you injected your comment into a discussion of 500,000 excess deaths, dude!!!

But, stepping up to the original post about liars in the GOP, do you think it's inappropriate for me to mention Trump in that context?

Is it your contention that Trump is not in the GOP??
Or is it your contention that Trump never lies???
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
@ElwoodBlues [quote]you injected your comment into a discussion of 500,000 excess deaths, dude!!![/quote]

I was responding to your original comment highlighted previously.

[quote]But, stepping up to the original post about liars in the GOP, do you think it's inappropriate for me to mention Trump in that context?[/quote]

I think its a bit much. The user's original comment was in regards to Republicans in a general sense, it was you who chose to inject Trump into the comments.

[quote]Is it your contention that Trump is not in the GOP??
Or is it your contention that Trump never lies???
[/quote]

My contention is that you are incapable of discussing any sort of political issue without injecting Trump into the discussion, whether it is warranted or just more of your TDS.
@SumKindaMunster [quote]I think its a bit much. The user's original comment was in regards to Republicans in a general sense,[/quote] So, in terms of lying, you don't think Trump stands out among republicans? You think his level of lying is typical among republicans??

[quote]My contention is that you are incapable of discussing any sort of political issue without injecting Trump into the discussion,[/quote] And here I had JUST steered the discussion towards 500,000 excess deaths, and what did you do?? You injected Trump back into the discussion,[b] ROTFL!!![/b]
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
@ElwoodBlues Well I am sorry you are incapable of having a discussion about something you wrote approximately 3 hours ago.

I'll try to dumb things down for you going forward and make a point of explaining what specific comment I am replying to you to avoid future confusion.
@SumKindaMunster You singled me out for bringing up Trump in a question about republican lying; now you are ducking my questions about whether Trump is an appropriate topic in that context.

Here, try again to answer. In terms of lying, do you think Trump stands out among republicans? Or do you think his level of lying is typical among republicans??
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
@ElwoodBlues I don't think it matters. Why is it necessary to only bring up Trump in this context? Why do you only compare him to Republicans? That's my point. The subject is political liars and you only have eyes for Trump. You can only discuss things as they relate to Trump.

Maybe expand your horizons a bit...
@SumKindaMunster [quote]The subject is political liars[/quote] WRONG!!! Go read the OP again.

[quote]Why is it necessary to only bring up Trump in this context? [/quote] If you would answer my questions, I think you might be able to understand!

In terms of lying, do you think Trump stands out among republicans? Or do you think his level of lying is typical among republicans??

Be honest.
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
@ElwoodBlues I've already answered your questions. They are irrelevant and again, I must point out that your endless obsession with Donald Trump is tiresome and boring.
@SumKindaMunster No, you didn't answer my questions. But I'm such a fine fella I'm gonna answer yours!!!

[quote]The subject is political liars[/quote] WRONG!!!
The subject is "Republicans don't value truth. There, I said it."
Right up there at the top. Maybe get your eyes checked?

[quote]Why is it necessary to only bring up Trump in this context? [/quote]
I explained that above. What part of [quote]Trump was FAR AND AWAY the most DISHONEST president ever. Trump made 30,573 lies & false claims as president [/quote] did you fail to understand???
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
@ElwoodBlues I answered your question. To reiterate: [quote]I don't think it matters.[/quote]

[quote]The subject is "Republicans don't value truth. There, I said it."[/quote]

Oh so you can pick and choose how to respond to this by making a strawman response about Trump, but I can't choose to respond to the overall tone of the post? Take a look at the responses and then tell me again what this post is about.
@SumKindaMunster As I explained above it's not a straw man about Trump. But you don't seem to understand my explanation.

So please answer: what part of
[quote]Trump was FAR AND AWAY the most DISHONEST president ever. Trump made 30,573 lies & false claims as president[/quote]
did you fail to understand???
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
@ElwoodBlues I understand fine. You are a disingenuous turd obsessed with Trump.

Here's your initial response, highlights are mine:
[quote][b]Folks here can proclaim "bothsidesism" and identify falsehoods from members of both parties[/b]. BUT!

Trump was FAR AND AWAY the most DISHONEST president ever. Trump made 30,573 lies & false claims as president
https://news.yahoo.com/trump-made-30-573-false-205400099.html
Nobody else comes anywhere close.[/quote]

So clearly you took the same conclusion I did, its a problem for all sides. Then you immediately pivoted to the Trump thing yet again, which wasn't the subject, but you decided, yet again, to try and make it the subject as you always do.

As previously stated, I chose to mock you for your obsession.

It's all right in this post.
@SumKindaMunster You sure got that wrong! I mentioned bothsidesism to point out what doesn't fit that narrative. That's why the word "BUT" is capitalized at the end of the first paragraph.

Then - and this seems to be the part that you have trouble understanding - I identified the major exception to bothsidesism and why. You still seem to be struggling to understand why Trump might be identified as that major exception. I offered clarifying questions. You declined to answer them.

I think I've explained that enough by now. Is that it for you, or do you have another dead horse to flog??
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
@ElwoodBlues [quote]this seems to be the part that you have trouble understanding - I identified the major exception to bothsidesism and why. You still seem to be struggling to understand why Trump might be identified as that major exception[/quote]

I understood you fine. I just didn't agree. I chose to see it as yet another example of your ongoing obsession with Donald Trump. No subject is too far out of bounds or irrelevant for you to mention him again, and demand others humor your obsession.

[quote] I offered clarifying questions. You declined to answer them.[/quote]

I answered them. You just didn't like the answer and are stubbornly repeating yourself hoping you get a different response.
@SumKindaMunster [quote]I understood you fine. I just didn't agree. [/quote] So ya STILL wanna flog this dead horse??

You singled me out for bringing up Trump in a question about republican lying; now you are ducking my questions about whether Trump is an appropriate topic in that context.

Here, try again to answer. In terms of lying, do you think Trump stands out among republicans? Or do you think his level of lying is typical among republicans? In all seriousness, why else would you consider it inappropriate to mention Trump in the context of republican lying???

You need me to explain the relevance of these questions to the topic at hand? AGAIN??? Well heeeeere ya go!!

I think, as I said, that
[quote]Trump was FAR AND AWAY the most DISHONEST president ever. Trump made 30,573 lies & false claims as president [/quote] If you disagree with my evaluation of Trump, then say so directly and contribute your own evaluation. Hence my questions about Trump's particular brand of lying.
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@ElwoodBlues "U.S. troops will remain in Afghanistan until all American citizens are evacuated, Biden tells ABC News"
HoraceGreenley · 56-60, M
@HoraceGreenley Have you figured out how to account for those 500,000 excess deaths yet?
Have you figured out what a death certificate is yet??