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DownTheStreet · 56-60, M
The entire purpose of the Ukraine war is to drain Russia. This will prolong the effort, but the strategic aim will remain. Ukraine will be propped up long enough - and only that long - to achieve that goal.
newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
@DownTheStreet The entire purpose of russia's war against Ukraine is to further the imperial ambitions of the russians.

That's why russia invaded Ukraine in 2014 and why the russians began murdering Ukrainian men, women, children, and babies, in 2022.

There is no other reason.

The russians bring nothing except destruction, suffering, and death.

Convivial · 26-30, F
It's not a few gallons of diesel.... It's Trumps reelection and for him no price is too high for you to pay
Waveney · M
President Trump has finally shown his true colours. He's been with Russia all along. Wait for the US to start openly assisting Russia militarily against Ukraine.
peterlee · M
At least Trump understands the various strands of Islam. And can tell his Sunni from his Shi’ite.

The Middle is safe in his hands.

Or not🤔
SunshineGirl · 41-45, F
@peterlee Phew, that's a relief! The last thing we need is another clueless westerner blundering into a complex ethnic conflict with not the faintest idea what he is doing . . .
SunshineGirl · 41-45, F
And he responds to criticism by saying "It's time Ukraine got a new president". He is surely a Russian agent.
helenS · 36-40, F
@SunshineGirl Temporarily. These guys (Trump, Putin and the like) are Camorra mobsters. Best friends today, shooting at each other tomorrow.
The main difference is, the US mobster was elected while Putin was not. The Russian people may be innocent, the American people are not. 👎
peterlee · M
@helenS It’s Trumps replacement in two years time that worries me. Let’s face it Trump was elected twice. He represents a large amount of American thinking.
SunshineGirl · 41-45, F
@helenS Best of friends, worst of enemies . . .
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whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
Just a little side note. The amount of Diesel (assuming it arrives and is processed to modern standards that dont choke a modern diesel engine) will solve the diesel shortage for about a week at current consumption numbers..😷
peterlee · M
@whowasthatmaskedman But it may provide Trump with a few votes in the midterm elections in the grain growing States.

It will also reduce inflation in European countries for a short time.

OK it was morally wrong for Russia to invade Ukraine, in defiance of International Law. It weakens cooperation in NATO, and enables Putin to move into the Balkans. But surely a few more votes for Trump in the short term, overrides this.

It stinks!
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@peterlee I have no doubt that you are correct. But equally I have no doubt that if the Diesel does arrive which I doubt, it will be more expensive than currently thought and will likely be rejected for quality standards upon inspection. Brazilian beef anyone? Its getting hard to have any sympathy at all for any Americans right now..😷
wildbill83 · 41-45, M
when you're out of it, society comes grinding to a halt, and you're freezing to death in the dark in the middle of winter; you can probably answer that question yourself... 🤔
SunshineGirl · 41-45, F
@wildbill83 He has negotiated the sale of less than a week's worth of what Americans normally consume. There is no danger of diesel running out, simply the politically inconvenient spectacle of relatively high prices. So the question still remains, "Is it worth sacrificing a sovereign nation for?"
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peterlee · M
@TexChik I respect your view. You represent a large swathe of American thinking.

And Trump believes he has struck a deal with Ukraine and Russia.
Musicman · 61-69, M
@TexChik @peterlee I love seeing an honest view of this situation.

 
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