Most men i came across are very self-important and egoistic and also lie a lot !

@HobNoblin u r saying that it's men's nature to be like that ? no good men?

@sahi81 I'm saying that what ever their nature is, it will not change.

@HobNoblin u mean all men r like that only?

I am not trying to change anyone

@sahi81 Maybe they are like that and maybe not. Either way they will not change. They can not.

@HobNoblin yes, i gave up on hoping others will change their bad behaviours

@sahi81 I did as well. I can't stand that women want to be taken care of by a man. It's like an adult size child. It makes me sad and disgusted. But, look at men and women, even our bodies are built to fulfil certian rolls. It's how we evolved. So I became a celibate.

@HobNoblin I have seen women protecting their men and taking care of them too. 2 together are stronger than 1 in pack. I think protecting and taking care, both women and men should do in relationship, not just the man. I think some women expect men to take care of them bcuz they search for a parent in the man, not a partner bcuz maybe they didn't receive parents love.

@HobNoblin Everyone's body is different. Some women r stronger than men and some men r weaker. But in general men are physical more stronger than women.

@HobNoblin it's a waste of time and energy to serach for men just to be taken care of.... Instead women can develop skills and take care of themselves and also when in good position in life, women can automatically take care of others in their life.

@sahi81 Seems like that to me. Still the instinct is there and it won't change.

@HobNoblin it can if such women realise that they might be doings something wrong and seek therapy lol

@HobNoblin i beleive most of them don't even realise it in first place.

@sahi81 Therapy is for when something is wrong. This is how things evolved. Technically it would be me going to therapy for not accepting my natural male role as leader of the household.

@HobNoblin i think now a days , women should also start to take lead . It's hard to survive for family if only/fully dependent on a man

@HobNoblin it's more important for an woman to be independent than a man bcuz a man can abandon her and her kids.. or even die suddenly

@sahi81 It won't matter what we think though. The system evolved to work one way only. That's why I chose not to participate.

@HobNoblin Many men too expect women to mother them.

@HobNoblin some people want to fill their wounds through partners.... that's where partnership role might turn into parental role

@sahi81 Nature only goes as far as it has to. As long as more survive than die, the system still works. Otherwise the species just goes extinct and gets replaced by another. When you are dealing with reproduction you are dealing with species survival. Often the individual is sacrificed.

@HobNoblin now a days ppl r reproducing less than previous generations and many r ok with being childfree.... i think bcuz human population is alreadfy very high

@sahi81 I've seen this before as well. Men and women are deeply intertwined. A bunch of men working onva job will turn to the few women there to tell their problems to. They go to the mother figure for support. Typically they get it, the women is naturally motherly, she'll have a nurturing tendancy.

@sahi81 Testosterone levels are lower all the time. Women don't carry children as well either. There is evidence that chemicals in plastics are disrupting the endocrine system. The population may recover if it drops low enough to be unable to manufacture these chemicals. Whether enough people will be around to repopulate is hard to say.

@HobNoblin i think it's good if population drops, there will be less exploitation and fight for limited resources

@HobNoblin even if half of population drops, there will still be many ppl in this world to repopulate easily

@HobNoblin it's just some men lol.... they expect women to be sacrificing like their mom towards them even when they do nothing for that woman... which is unrealistic to expect i believe...