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BlueVeins · 22-25
I think it's an odd question. Israel is a country with its own government, whereas Palestine is a land area of disputed size and shape, connected to an ethnicity of people and a few competing organizations that claim to represent it. I support the right of all civilians to live in peace, in their homeland. The warfare and terrorism needs to stop on both sides, the civilian hostages need to be released on both sides, Hamas needs to recognize Israel, the blockade needs to be lifted, and Israel needs to let Palestinians back into their homeland.
In pursuit of those goals, I most closely align with the PLO.
In pursuit of those goals, I most closely align with the PLO.
samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
@BlueVeins does the PLO exist in reality anymore? There is the Palestinian Authority that has at some time sought real peace.
IamBack · 31-35, M
@BlueVeins when an American talks about politics 🤣 you do realize that there will be no Israel if they let the Palestinians back, right?
Israel is an occupying force with a band of marauders calling themselves a “government”, created by the US to keep the Middle East in an everlasting state of chaos
Israel is an occupying force with a band of marauders calling themselves a “government”, created by the US to keep the Middle East in an everlasting state of chaos
IamBack · 31-35, M
@BlueVeins it’s always been like that, and that’s how it will always be, ever since 1948 until God wills otherwise
Have you watched that video of Joe Biden where he says “if Israel didn’t exist then we would’ve had to invent one?”
The whole idea of dealing with Israel as a legit country who just happens to have had a radical government for the past couple years only, is the odd thing about your comment 🤷🏻♂
History didn’t start on the 7th-Oct-2023
Have you watched that video of Joe Biden where he says “if Israel didn’t exist then we would’ve had to invent one?”
The whole idea of dealing with Israel as a legit country who just happens to have had a radical government for the past couple years only, is the odd thing about your comment 🤷🏻♂
History didn’t start on the 7th-Oct-2023
BlueVeins · 22-25
@IamBack Britain and France were bitter rivals up until the 19th century, and today, they're so close that most people don't even think about that day to day. Eighty years is a blink in the eye in the scale of human history. Eighty years ago, Korea was one nation, and now the Koreas are bitter rivals. Eighty years ago, Poland was a part of Russia's de facto empire, and now they're fully independent, relatively democratic, and integrated with the EU.
It's true that the US uses Israel as a wedge against Iran and its allies, but the fate of neither the US nor Iran's coalition are set in stone. The US is a pretty unstable anocracy right now, and Iran and its allies face an ever evolving geopolitical climate to maneuver in. I'm not saying nay of these problems are easy to resolve. They're clearly not, or someone would have fixed it by now. But the idea that Israel is just doomed to stay the same as it always was is just stupid, and a long view of human history confirms that.
It's true that the US uses Israel as a wedge against Iran and its allies, but the fate of neither the US nor Iran's coalition are set in stone. The US is a pretty unstable anocracy right now, and Iran and its allies face an ever evolving geopolitical climate to maneuver in. I'm not saying nay of these problems are easy to resolve. They're clearly not, or someone would have fixed it by now. But the idea that Israel is just doomed to stay the same as it always was is just stupid, and a long view of human history confirms that.
IamBack · 31-35, M
@BlueVeins your example is so wrong for two main reasons, Britain and France were two equal forces, the Koreas are two equal forces, Poland was part of the Soviet Union and the union as a whole fell apart.
If you genuinely think that the US needs Israel just for the sake of facing Iran then you are deeply mistaken.
And if you genuinely think that Israel wants a two-state solution then you are deeply mistaken as well
And if everybody has buried the hatchet, why is Israel still being paid compensation from the holocaust which happened 80 years ago? Why do they use that as a scapegoat for everything they do but God forbid that a Palestinian would come up and say, 75-80 years ago it was called Palestine!
If you genuinely think that the US needs Israel just for the sake of facing Iran then you are deeply mistaken.
And if you genuinely think that Israel wants a two-state solution then you are deeply mistaken as well
And if everybody has buried the hatchet, why is Israel still being paid compensation from the holocaust which happened 80 years ago? Why do they use that as a scapegoat for everything they do but God forbid that a Palestinian would come up and say, 75-80 years ago it was called Palestine!
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