DANGER - No wonder you believe what your TV tells you!

@WalterF That is dispensational nonsense. The Gospel of Jesus Christ completely removes the need for 'Israel'. One final point to make. If a Mormon calls himself a Christian does that make him a Christian? So it is with 'Israel'. A group of very evil people decide they will start a very corrupt nation and call that nation Israel so does that mean one can not critique them for the evils they are doing? In case you are wondering I am a recovered dispensationalist. I came to realize that the Christian Church in the west fell for Darby/Scofield nonsense called dispensationalism that in effect completely destroys the Christian Gospel.

@hippyjoe1955 Up to you, what you believe

@WalterF Absolutely my choice. I found that traditional Christianity going back to the time of the Apostles that Israel performed its one duty which was to make the Sacrifice as the priestly people. However the Sacrifice has been made and now there is a New High Priest His name is Jesus. (Hebrews) Or as St Paul wrote there is no longer Jew nor Gentile, slave nor free, male nor female for all are one in Christ Jesus. The whole idea of a land based kingdom was set aside by Jesus who said "My Kingdom is not of this world". The funny thing is that the state of Israel is rejected by orthodox Jews who believe that the kingdom of Israel can only be established by the Messiah. The men who established and maintain Israel are not messiahs therefore.

@Confined Define patriotism. Personally I've found that self styled flag shagging patriots are the ones who ard doing the most to destroy thd countries they profess to love. The ones who avoid and / or evade paying their taxes, who think laws should not be applied to them.

@Confined Simple answer: they're paid huge grants for doing what they are told. Money buys anything. The would-be controllers have trillions to spend on applying their agenda.