Should governments be allowed to take away people's rights for public safety or otherwise?

Well either they are rights or they aren't. You can't call them rights only when it suits you. On the other hand what do we do when two rights collide and interfering with one another? Public safety is a right in and of itself too. We have to have balance. We can certainly go overboard when it comes to rights.

For instance my kids have a "right" to privacy. However it is my job as their parent to keep them safe and one way I can do that is having some oversight over their activities. They don't get privacy in every instance, especially when it's necessary for me to know what's going on. Of course they are aware of this and I don't have to sneak peeks at their phones or tablets. I have built a relationship of trust so they are more than willing to work with me.

I think it's similar with governments. If your people trust you they will do what's necessary without needing to take their rights away.

So, no, I don't think governments should be allowed to take people's rights away but it is their job to keep the public safe to a certain extent. They might have some mending to do when it comes to trust in order to get cooperation. From there they can get the people to understand why what they're requesting is necessary. But I think that trust is vital. Without that you're just forcing people to bend to your will.

What we seem to have forgotten is that our government is always a balancing act. We have the right to free speech, but can't yell "fire" in a crowded theater because it endangers public safety. We have the freedom to drive on highways, but can't drive any speed we choose, again in the interest of public safety. Heck, the Constitution believes the "pursuit of happiness" is a fundamental right, but of course we have a lot of laws that place limits on this right.

It has always been up to us to engage in healthy debate to find compromises that work for most people. So the keys are respectful debate and finding compromises - unfortunately too many on all sides seem to have forgotten this.

The government will soon be taking peoples right to private property. “You will own nothing and be happy” by 2030. It only starts with “public safety”

Rights are not set in stone nor upheld by some chivalrous faction of independent beings. Its a list of ideals at best, that can be altered due to circumstances that protect the public.

[quote]Should governments be allowed to take away people's rights?[/quote]

Only if they're white.

Or, conservative.

But, mostly if they're white

abuse of freedom destroys security in the process

Never!

Fuck No