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What is the nastiest/meanest thing you've ever said to someone else?

I cut down this couple at my parents church years ago. This was when I was first starting to transition so we are going several years back. I got dragged along by my parents to some fundraising event at the church they go to. Got told by the woman in the couple that changing my body into something it is not is a sin blah blah blah. Basically they were saying I was a shameful creature. Well this couple is known for having fertility issues and she was undergoing various surgeries to have a baby. I threw her own words back at her and made her cry. I told her that she's changing her body around to have a baby and that's sinful because your body is not naturally able to have children. If it's not natural it must be a sin right? I also said it's a waste of money and resources to force your body to have something you obviously can't have. I added in it must not be god's will for you to be a mother huh.

Made her cry and her husband looked like he wanted to smack the crap out of me by the way he just glared at me after. You want to be rude and come for me I will go for the attack. I am not known for my kindness you know. Needless to say I was never invited back by the church or my parents. They didn't speak to me for awhile because I had brought them shame in front of their friends. Oh well

Yes, I can be downright nasty does this surprise you?

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MartinTheFirst · 26-30, M

I mean they're right though, you were obviously not born as a woman and therefore you're not supposed to be one. That's not a genetic defect, the way that being unable to use your currently existing organs is. That's just an inconvenience that you're trying to patch together in an unnatural and disgusting way. Sorry to say, but it's a sin.

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MizzBella · 31-35, T

@MartinTheFirst God you sound just like them

MartinTheFirst · 26-30, M

@MizzBella ... because it's the christian belief..? You obviously don't fit into christianity, either change your ways and become saved once again, or stay clear of it to remain in peace until you die.

Quetzalcoatlus · 46-50, M

@MartinTheFirst So let him sin and let God judge. None of it is your business..

MartinTheFirst · 26-30, M

@Quetzalcoatlus Do you see me putting shackles on MizzBella?

Lostpoet · M

@MartinTheFirst We are taught to be accepting though and not judge others. My mom would have slapped me upside the head if I told anyone that they were living in sin or doing anything wrong.

MartinTheFirst · 26-30, M

@Lostpoet We have to remind each other when we commit sins, not to hurt or judge one another, but to help other people to correct their ways. If no one ever told me that I was out of line, I would never know when to reflect on myself. Granted, sometimes people tell me I'm out of line when it's not true, but even in that case a double check does not hurt.

Lostpoet · M

@MartinTheFirst Imma try your reasoning on my mom next time. I still don't know if TS is a sin though and I've never read in the Bible God saying it's a sin to change your gender. Although, I do believe I have a masculine soul, do souls actually have genders? All the angels in the bible don't have sex organs.

MartinTheFirst · 26-30, M

@Lostpoet Changing your gender wasn't possible in the time when prophets existed to write the scriptures, but be asured that the christian view on the position of men and women, the natural order of genders, and sexuality, all adequately covers this subject too.

Lostpoet · M

@MartinTheFirst Do you believe God made women to be subservient to men?

MartinTheFirst · 26-30, M

@Lostpoet I believe that women were made to be complementary to men. Men are leaders and more, according to the bible, this means that women are other things than that in order to make the men whole, and for the men to make the women whole. The whole thing about women being dominated by men was born from sin, as written in the bible.

CorvusBlackthorne · M

@MartinTheFirst I would not have pegged you for the type to use transphobic hate speech and then hide behind religion. Perhaps I have not been paying attention.

CestManan · 46-50, F

@CorvusBlackthorne Oh he is almost as bad as some of the other bigots on here.
He is not a huge jackass about it like a few on here but he is far from being an lgbt supporter.

Lostpoet · M

@MartinTheFirst If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you, but make allowance for their doubting too. If - Rudyard Kipling

I'm referring to your comment about people reminding you of your behavior it made me think of that line.

basilfawlty89 · 31-35, M

@MartinTheFirst be nice, or I'm going to spam you with trans porn.

MartinTheFirst · 26-30, M

@CorvusBlackthorne its not hate speech if there's no hate behind it

CorvusBlackthorne · M

@MartinTheFirst I see. So were I to begin referring to persons of African descent by a particular N-word, but without ill intent, that would magickally make it permissible?

Lostpoet · M

@CorvusBlackthorne in a religious context it is hard because we were raised from the nipple being told that everything in the Bible is 💯 right. His belief is that God doesn't make mistakes he wouldn't put someone in another genders body. I disagree with this because God does make mistakes sometimes kids are born with three arms or really tiny dicks 🤷it happens. But for someone to support their religion and be told that they are spewing hate is also wrong he's just supporting what he believes in.

CorvusBlackthorne · M

@Lostpoet My religion states that Albanians are inferior to persons from England. Therefore, I am not a racist for believing that.

Lostpoet · M

@CorvusBlackthorne If that's really your religion and if you really believe that then I don't think it's hate speech, but we both know you were just being superfluous.

CorvusBlackthorne · M

@Lostpoet Of course I was, but it is quite clear to me that you choose to forgive hatred and bigotry when it is couched in religious terms. Therefore, we have nothing more to say to one another.

Lostpoet · M

@CorvusBlackthorne Not forgive but I understand where he is coming from having been through a similar upbringing. We have different view points though. I don't think God really cares about someone's sexual orientation or the person they fall in love with. And I think it's a sin to make someone go celibate or to live a lie just because they are afraid of upsetting God.

CorvusBlackthorne · M

@Lostpoet I do not excuse racism, transphobia, homophobia, or any sort of hatred or exclusionism based upon religion or culture. No one should. @MartinTheFirst was inexcusably hateful to the OP, and no religion which justifies such behavior is worthy of my respect.

Lostpoet · M

@CorvusBlackthorne And nobody is making you.

CestManan · 46-50, F

@CorvusBlackthorne [quote] I would not have pegged you [/quote] I bet Martin was disappointed when he read that part. 😄

Lostpoet · M

@CorvusBlackthorne But can't you see how his doctrine would make him have his view point it's not even hate he only wants best for this person and if you truly believed that someone's actions were going to hurt them then you should tell them.

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