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Freedom of Speech

The concept is very much under scrutiny right now. If there are consequences for speech then does freedom of speech exist?

I would argue that freedom of speech only applies to criminal law, not civil or employment law. You should be protected from criminal prosecution but not from civil or employment action. If you say something controversial then you don't go to jail, that's freedom of speech. If you say something controversial and get fired from your job, that's a business protecting its brand. If you have issue with the fairness of your dismissal then you handle that via employment tribunal.

If you say something controversial and get sued then that would fall under defamation, namely slander or libel. You should not have the freedom to lie where it is to the detriment of others.

When people campaign to get you fired for saying controversial things, that's not an attack on your freedom of speech. That's not the state imposing or enforcing a law which stifles your freedom.

In essence, freedom of speech is a contract between you and the state, not you and every other individual or business.

That's my take on it 🤔
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smiler2012 · 61-69
@ostfuidctyvm freedom of speech is a god given right i say. you do not agree with something in the work place that you find detremental to interest of you and others . really it is only the way you put over your case that can land you in hot water if you come over aggressive . sacking somebody for pointing an obvious flaw could be deemed as unfair dismissal
newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
@smiler2012
freedom of speech is a god given right

No, it's a right given by the First Amendment to your Constitution, but no longer... King Donald and the MAGA Party have decided that it has to go.
smiler2012 · 61-69
@newjaninev2 well see i as speaking generally as i am not american so i do not know what the law states on civil rights and freedom of speech in america
newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
@smiler2012
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances
smiler2012 · 61-69
@newjaninev2 🤷‍♂you quote this but i am ignorant of american law . all i understand is that law is no longer applicable under the trump administration . i will just quote you something and the hypocricy of this what about january sixth. when the maga crowd stormed the american seat of power in the guise of an legal demonstration and protest of the defeat of there messiah to joe biden
newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
@smiler2012 Yes, americans say they're concerned that they might lose their freedom of speech, but they seem completely unaware that it has already happened.