Was is real? Is there reality left? What stays?

@TheBlackPowerRanger In quantum mechanics, the uncertainty principle (also known as Heisenberg's uncertainty principle) is any of a variety of mathematical inequalities asserting a fundamental limit to the accuracy with which the values for certain pairs of physical quantities of a particle, such as position, x, and momentum, p, can be predicted from initial conditions.

@val70 well, I get that. I don't quite get where you're taking this though.

I am 100% sure that there is reality and it is a simple, consistent, observable existence. Does this uncertainty principle counter that in your mind?

@TheBlackPowerRanger Yes, because there's indeed more than a little evidence that reality isn't singular but multitude. Even in physics nothing can be that because of this any more, just because there's no real stability to measure against. What we think is reality isn't really reality. Only individual perception and factial context make a result that can we agreed to by the many. What you claim to be simple, consistent and observable isn't that at all, and once there's an acceptance for the need of more examination then reality will become eventually real again. In short, everything is much more complex than we can be gather.

@val70 Are you a sophist? ,_,
Just curious to know


And I can't quite back you up there .-.
You and I can compare our perceptions. We're a standard, conscious, sentient agent with the ability to perceive in different ways. Sound, sight, touch, taste, and smell. Considering our senses work as the model human biological code is supposed to work, you and I can compare our perceptions of reality and find that since our bodies should remain consistent, our perception faculties/tools work appropriately and are the same, that we should perceive the same reality if reality is indeed only one and the same for all. If it were different, you would look at the same thing I look at and it would be different ,_,
We know that's not the case and it can't be a multitude

Just because the complexity of the universe is abstracted and encapsulated from us and we cannot unravel it all does not mean at all that reality is not one ._.

@TheBlackPowerRanger There's already a multitude by the multitude of how we all code perception. Language, culture, etc. Limited that we are, we shouldn't presume that we know any better than the American Indians. I thought that we past that stage already. It's not because something was said in some language that the original cultural concept will have translated correctly. To believe in the always enduring singularity of reality as it can be both percieved and decoded as best as possible, well, that's foolish in the extreme. It isn't just because it's worded as being complex that the average poor human brain will ever understand it if it doesn't accept that constant and ever further examination is needed.