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LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
Everybody is good without God. Ask me why.
@LordShadowfire Another person who didn't even bother to watch the video.
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@Bel6EQUJ5 I'll watch it later. I'm watching TV with the family right now.
@LordShadowfire Then you don't know what you're talking about, because they explain why in the video.
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@Bel6EQUJ5 Why what? Why you can be good without him?
@LordShadowfire Watch the video! They explain why.
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@Bel6EQUJ5 Why what? I can't tell whether you are for or against.
@LordShadowfire Does that matter?
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@Bel6EQUJ5 Look, I've got an hour before I can watch that video undisturbed without bothering Mom and Dad. I'm just trying to figure out what your point is with this post.
@LordShadowfire That's not my problem. You shouldn't make claims or dismiss something before you've even examined the evidence.
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@Bel6EQUJ5 Bold of you to assume I've never examined the evidence. But since you just answered the question you've been dodging, here's a fun little video for you:
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LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@Bel6EQUJ5 What is your point? I've heard all those іԁіоtic arguments before. And I'm not in the mood to be lectured by someone who sits there and defends racism.
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@LordShadowfire
Since you clearly haven't watched it, I'll tell you a few things about it.
1. At no point in the video do they mention Christ, Christianity, or in any other way preach the Gospel. They keep religion out of it.
2. It's about what forms the foundation for objective moral standards. Their basic argument is that since objective moral standards actually exist (and they make an argument for that too), there must be something (not necessarily 'God') that underpins it.
3. It isn't about belief in God, the main question being, "Can you be good without God" (NOT can you be good without believing in God).
I've heard all those іԁіоtic arguments before.
How the HELL can you say that you've heard all of those arguments before, WHEN YOU HAVEN'T WATCHED THE VIDEO! Since you clearly haven't watched it, I'll tell you a few things about it.
1. At no point in the video do they mention Christ, Christianity, or in any other way preach the Gospel. They keep religion out of it.
2. It's about what forms the foundation for objective moral standards. Their basic argument is that since objective moral standards actually exist (and they make an argument for that too), there must be something (not necessarily 'God') that underpins it.
3. It isn't about belief in God, the main question being, "Can you be good without God" (NOT can you be good without believing in God).
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@Bel6EQUJ5 I love how you think your video is unique, how you think I haven't heard the same arguments over and over from various Christians. It's hilarious to me that you think you've got something new.
Oh, and by the way. You can either say that morality is absolute, or you can say that God created morality based on his opinion. You don't get to have it both ways.
Oh, and by the way. You can either say that morality is absolute, or you can say that God created morality based on his opinion. You don't get to have it both ways.
@LordShadowfire I'm wasting my time with you here. You clearly do not understand the basic argument, the point of the video (because you haven't watched it).
And I know you still haven't watched it, because you keep saying things about it that clearly reveal you haven't.
So what's the point? Choose to remain in the darkness of ignorance if you like, but I prefer to be still capable of changing my mind about something when there are good reasons to. It's why I no longer care about Christianity, and why I'm now agnostic.
And I know you still haven't watched it, because you keep saying things about it that clearly reveal you haven't.
So what's the point? Choose to remain in the darkness of ignorance if you like, but I prefer to be still capable of changing my mind about something when there are good reasons to. It's why I no longer care about Christianity, and why I'm now agnostic.
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@Bel6EQUJ5 I asked you which position the person who made the video took, and you wouldn't tell me even that. What was I supposed to think?
By the way, agnosticism is not exactly intellectually honest, either.
By the way, agnosticism is not exactly intellectually honest, either.
@LordShadowfire Are you serious? Agnosticism is THE most honest position a person can take, because it's an admission to not knowing the answer to the question of God's existence.
Here's my position: I don't have one.
Here's my position: I don't have one.
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@Bel6EQUJ5 Well, here's mine. If there's an all-knowing God who is also all-powerful, he's definitely not all good. And if he's all good and all-powerful, he's not all knowing. And If he's all good and all knowing, he's not all-powerful.