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The “climate crisis” is a lie, a hoax, a fraud, an affront to science and logic, a travesty, an economic and social sinkhole, a fake phoney baloney preposterous fabrication, a boondoggle, a massive waste of time and money, a pain in the arse, and it’s really silly too.

Dr Patrick Moore co-founder and former leader of Greenpeace.
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gol979 · 41-45, M
There is something going on on an ecological scale. Bugs dying off en masse etc. But the answers they are giving.....carbon capture, nitrogen reduction, methane is just being used for more control. Look into ESGs
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@gol979 Which bugs are dying?
gol979 · 41-45, M
@hippyjoe1955 i think we all can see there is a massive decrease in insect life over the last 40 years. Bees too. No where near as many birds
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@gol979 Really? I haven't seen any decrease in any life forms here at all. I see more life in areas they haven't been in decades. I had a laugh a few years ago there was a report about all the sparrows missing in the city. I went for a walk the afternoon I read the report and couldn't help but notice all the sparrows in the trees. I have no idea who wrote the report but I did find it funny how easy it was to debunk it.
gol979 · 41-45, M
@hippyjoe1955 well its happening....my guess would be geo engineering and wireless is having a detrimental and accumulative effect....maybe
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@gol979 It is not happening. It is reported as being happening. We see this being played out all the time. I mentioned polar bears. They were the poster animal of the AGW crowd. Why? Well because no one would go check on them. They are too far away. Now the story is shifting to bugs and those who live in sealed homes will nod along. They haven't seen a bug in years! OMG there is a mass die of bugs!!!! No there isn't. There has been technology developed to keep the bugs out.
gol979 · 41-45, M
@hippyjoe1955 im not saying that the answers the psychos are giving is anything but about control and pseudoscience but i cannot deny my own experience where there is a tangible reduction of wildlife where i live, during the course of my life
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@gol979 When my great grandparents moved to the homestead I grew up on they would shoot pronghorn antelope off the front porch. Growing up I never saw an antelope anywhere near the farm. One day I was visiting Mom and Dad on the farm and I looked out the front window and there was a large herd of pronghorn within rifle range of the front porch. Hmmmm. Last year I went to a reunion in my home town and on the way back north I spotted two antelope grazing well north of where I grew up. Is their range expanding? When I was a kid we would drive to northern Alberta to visit family. We would often see moose tracks in the ditch but never saw a moose. A few years ago I was talking to the fellow that bought the farm I grew up on. He said there is now a moose living on the farm. Hmmm has the territory grown or are the animals just moving back in again? A few years ago there was a report of a lynx and her kittens on the grounds of the legislature building. Hmmm how could that be? Lynx are northern creatures that live secluded lives in remote forests..... The point being that wildlife habitat is never fixed. It grows and shrinks then grows again in natural cycles.
gol979 · 41-45, M
@hippyjoe1955 no doubt but burying our head to soil and insect health doesnt make it any less of an issue
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@gol979 But panicking over natural cycles simply shows we don't understand natural cycles.
gol979 · 41-45, M
@hippyjoe1955 we are in agreement......but i do think this system we mainly operate in has a desregard for not only human life but all life. That might be a little extreme but im not sure in the face of the last few years
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@gol979 The fact is that the earth has been around for a very long time and has undergone countless changes. Life continues. Should we panic over tectonic plate movement? They are destroying human settlements all the time, or should humanity get its head together and stop settling in earthquake zones?
@gol979
There is something going on on an ecological scale. Bugs dying off en masse etc.

The science supports your observations
Abstract
Recent case studies showing substantial declines of insect abundances have raised alarm, but how widespread such patterns are remains unclear. We compiled data from 166 long-term surveys of insect assemblages across 1676 sites to investigate trends in insect abundances over time. Overall, we found considerable variation in trends even among adjacent sites but an average decline of terrestrial insect abundance by ~9% per decade and an increase of freshwater insect abundance by ~11% per decade. Both patterns were largely driven by strong trends in North America and some European regions. We found some associations with potential drivers (e.g., land-use drivers), and trends in protected areas tended to be weaker. Our findings provide a more nuanced view of spatiotemporal patterns of insect abundance trends than previously suggested.
https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.aax9931

Also see
Worldwide decline of the entomofauna: A review of its drivers
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0006320718313636



UPDATE


Dippyjoe: let's just say I find the peer reviewed meta-analyses far more convincing than I find your outlandish claims, LOL!!!
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@ElwoodBlues And you believe that line of bunk because it is academe (not science) HUGE difference that is completely lost on you.