Should the pledge of allegiance still be done at schools?

@TexChik What is the pledge?

@TexChik I'm not in the USA. There is no such thing as a 'school pledge' here in Australia. I never had to make 'oaths' or 'pledges of allegience' in primary school, high school, or beyond in any other post-school education.

@zonavar68 The pledge of Allegiance.

@TexChik That has no place in schools. It should only apply to military, law enforcement, and government employees/contractors. NOT for students! Just like bibles have no place in schools.

Ok found the text....

"I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."

Because it includes a reference to God, it is automatically invalid regardless of my view it has no place in schools and the education system in general.

@zonavar68 Says you. It has been an American tradition until lately, with the socialists trying to dismantle everything good in this country. They must bring back Civics so kids can understand how our Constitutional Republic works.

@TexChik I do agree with including civics in school education for sure, but not as an insular curriculum focus. It should teach about the country, how the political and legal systems work, and it's place in the world as a whole. Making school students 'pledge' to the flag is really toxic in my view.

@zonavar68 We are a government of the people, by the people, and for the people, not a people ruled by a tyrannical government. There is nothing wrong with saying the Pledge of Allegiance. It is a patriotic gesture that a non-American could understand.

@TexChik Not with the 'god' reference it isn't. It's dis-inclusive of people who are not religious and/or choose to not believe in god. Forcing a person to recite a pledge mentioning something they do not believe in is a false representation. Just saying.

@zonavar68 Especially with the God reference in it.