Religion indoctrinates people far more than supposed left wing politics

@HollyW Whereas the research shows that a higher percentage of believers in God lean left wing. I suspect believers in God who lean right wing may be more vocal about their religion. Certainly a higher percentage of atheists are left wing in the research.
"In the 2014 Religious Landscape Study, conducted in mid-2014, 37% of those surveyed say they identify with or lean toward the Republican Party. More than four-in-ten (44%) identify with or lean toward the Democratic Party. And nearly one-in-five respondents (18%) identify as politically independent or with a party other than the GOP or the Democratic Party (and indicate that they do not lean toward either major party)." https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2015/11/03/chapter-4-social-and-political-attitudes/

@Abstraction Left wing politics is better aligned with Christian teachings. Yet the Bible belt is better aligned to right wing politics. I'll speculate that right wing Christianity is a corruption better allowing for bigotry, violence and profiteering.

@HollyW So you have to know that I'm a left wing Christian who is NOT given to conspiracy theories. I value science, evidence, reason, dignity for all etc. So everything I'm about to say is documented and researchable. In the 1930s a very rich man formed a group loosely known as 'the family' who decided to start a movement among churches to support conservative politics. Of course he did, as conservative politics works in favour of the wealthy. They succeeded in pulling right wing evangelical Christianity into their influence and the rest is history.
Yet evangelical Christianity prior to this had been associated with foundations of union movements, workers rights, organisations to care for the poor, foundation to stop abuse of animals (RSPCA), the abolition of slavery (& succeeded in Britain)... Many of us still care about these things and struggle to identify with the evangelical right on many issues.
https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2019/aug/15/the-family-netflix-powerful-sinister-christian-sect-trump
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fellowship_(Christian_organization)

@Abstraction Interesting. I was raised in a Christian environment and found something more appealing to me in terms of proof providing.

@HollyW I totally understand that. I think the Christian God, if real, would want us to embrace what's real and true even if it disproved his existence, if you know what I mean. I actually do follow the latest thinking in physics, philosophy, neuroscience, cosmology, etc and don't find any clash with my beliefs. No, really. But then I'm not a fundamentalist.

@Abstraction We should ask ourselves what belief about our reality best values two ideals in reasonableness and desirability.

@HollyW It is desirable for me that beyond the spin, the dishonesty, the abuse of power, manipulation behind the scenes, the crushing indignity of poverty (which is the sphere I work in), abuse, crime, betrayal, lies... that the cry inside us for truth, dignity, justice, care for lives of the vulnerable, love isn't a fantasy we've dreamt up but that kind of wholeness exists at the heart of the universe.
But desirable isn't enough for me. I just want what's true. If God isn't real, I'll throw away the belief tomorrow. That's why I don't shy away from science.

@HollyW Curious - what did you find more appealing and reasonable? :)

@Abstraction A decent explanation of how nature does what is ascribed to God. If you disagree that's fine. Everyone doesn't need to be the same.

@HollyW It's ok, I didn't ask to argue. I just wanted to know what you thought because it interested me. I work across cultures and I don't have difficulty respecting other people's views and world views. It's not difficult, hey?

@Abstraction I already knew that you weren't the antagonistic sort.