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Incest...the numbers!

Incest seems to be less taboo than decades ago. But 'seems to' lacks hard figures for me.

Does anyone have actual figures about how many people have experienced (18+ consensual!) incest and how many people, without experiences themselves, have a positive attitude towards incest?
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LucyCD · 56-60, M
Not sure if incest is increasing or not but the rise of Genetic testing has apparently revealed that it is more common than people think . A professor doing research at the U.K. Biobank, an anonymized research database: revealed that " one in 7,000 people, according to his unpublished analysis, was born to parents who were first-degree relatives—a brother and a sister or a parent and a child."
I think it is less taboo as it's more commonly discussed anonymously on the internet and people are finding out that it's more common than imagined.
It's always gone on and if it's consensual that's between them , there's little enough love and compassion in the world as it is.
LucyCD · 56-60, M
@EagerDaddy Interesting about the other Royal Families and undoubtedly quite a few others!
Ultimately they are nearly all related due to incest and political marriages to keep power within a small family group (which was the goal of the Pharaohs).
As you say inbreeding ultimately is self cancelling.
AnneHoney · 41-45, F
@LucyCD it is interesting that GOT was allowed to present what was historically quite common. I did see the show on King Tut where they said his mom and dad were almost certainly brother and sister. Fairly common in some Native American tribes from what I have heard. It makes sense that the first offspring are typically no significantly in danger of birth defects but if you keep doing it like the British, you might have a problem.
But with todays birth control and men getting snipped it would cancel the main argument on what many find a very big turn on.
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hartfire · 61-69
It's not less taboo. It's illegal in almost all cultures.

Psychologists and social workers in the 1980s believed the numbers were 1 in 4 girls and 1 in 10 boys were molested or raped by a member of their family, usually a father, step-father, uncle, or grandfather. 1% of perpetrators are women, usually single mothers. 99% are male and currently married. Ages of victims range from newborns to 15 years, but grooming most frequently starts between 4 and 6 years old, and the abuse continues until the child gets old enough to start acting out -- with a wide range of responses: withdrawal, depression, suicides, drug addiction, running away from home, delinquency, crimes.
In Japan, the ratios are reversed. Mothers whose husbands spend long hours away at work are the most likely to offer sex to their teenage sons. They try to jusitfy that it is "to keep them at home and focused on their schoolwork". The psychological damage to these boys is just as bad.

There are practical reasons why incest is psychologically damaging to the child, no matter whether the grooming is manipulative or coercive. It is rape because children do not experience adult desires and because they're not mature enough to know how to defend themselves.It predisposes the victim to a lifetime of low self-esteem, depression, and very often addiction and worse. On the physical level, male on female, there are the risks of pregnancy and babies with subnormal intelligence and genetic deformities.

The only difference now is that we do and should talk about it.
Perpetrators need to understand the serious and long-term damage they do.

Victims are learning that it is important to report their perpetrator to a responsible adult who will believe, support and help them.
Adult survivors are learning the value of talking about it to their therapists, if they can afford one.

The media are talking about it because of the terrible toll. There is no justification for harming a child in any way.
SWfan · 41-45, M
@EagerDaddy I agree with you.
dominateofyou · 61-69, M
@oldercanuck1 what states are those I think incest is more common than people think .
oldercanuck1 · 70-79, M
@dominateofyou i believe it is as well ,, but if you type in states that legalized incest it will show you
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EagerDaddy · 46-50, M
@AnneHoney You are totally right with your question about the age of consent. There's a lot to say about that, but I experienced that if you're not conforming to what is 'legal' in most US states, you can expect to be mercilessly cut down here at SW and 'pedophile' is one of the more friendly terms of address.
SWfan · 41-45, M
@AnneHoney that's true.
Jacko1971 · 51-55, M
@EagerDaddy what do you think should be the age of consent?
AnneHoney · 41-45, F
Sex with a relative is in a way similar to where gay sex was until recently. Commonly going on but either illegal or immoral according to many people and governments. With no real reason for it to be forbidden. Multiple spouses is another one. Pay for sex another. Do it or don’t but governments should not restrict sexual freedom.
EagerDaddy · 46-50, M
@AnneHoney You are so very right! I totally agree with you. The taboo on consensual incest will disappear. No government should have a say about what we do in the bedroom (or kitchen, bathroom..) if it is consensual and not harming anybody.

And indeed, about the other 'taboos' you mention: I fully agree.
88SniperJoel · 22-25, M
I dunno if all of you people replying to this are supportive of incest or if you oppose it.....but either way I just cant believe there is a discussion on SW about such a controversial topic with over 40 replies and it hasnt descended into some sort of unhinged shouting match. Its pretty rare!
EagerDaddy · 46-50, M
@88SniperJoel Scanning the answers, most are supportive. As I am.
AnneHoney · 41-45, F
@EagerDaddy I think most just think consenting adults should be allowed to participate in any sex acts.
EagerDaddy · 46-50, M
@AnneHoney And that’s very good, of course. If that would be representative…but it is not, I am sure, at least not yet..
WandererTony · 56-60, M
I feel it is ok with consenting adults. But the circumstances that might cause it would be sexual starvation, or excessive cravings, in my opinion.
cecile · F
i love incest so much its always exciting no matter how many times we do it
TheBatQueen · 22-25, F
@cecile I will check
EagerDaddy · 46-50, M
@cecile I so agree! And in different ‘configurations’; knowing to exchange bodily fluids with a close family member is just hot, very hot.
SWfan · 41-45, M
@cecile here's my take incest, as long as it's between consenting adults and children aren't involved, then there's nothing wrong with incest.
Emilie92 · 31-35, F
I think it has always occurred more than what people think it is just discussed more openly now and there is less judgement
TheBatQueen · 22-25, F
I don't know but I don't mind it
SWfan · 41-45, M
@TheBatQueen Incest doesn't bother me either.
SWfan · 41-45, M
@TheBatQueen here's my take on incest, as long as incest is between consenting adults then who cares.
james09 · 26-30, M
I don't have actual figures, but I think it would be hard to have realistic stats on that type of thing anyway. Incest is still so taboo, especially in America, so I think people who have embraced inter-family sexual relationships are less likely to speak openly about it or volunteer their experiences for the larger public. Speaking from experience though, I do think it is more common than most people realize. It's still taboo, but I know several families in which the parents were the primary way their kids learned about sex (my own family included). I actually think it's one of the most natural and bonding ways that adolescents can learn about sexuality and physical pleasure. My parents are very much free spirits so I'm lucky, but I know other families have had similar experiences (even though they would probably never reveal the nature of their private incestuous relationships to strangers or the larger public).
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