I wish I could make out with my wife.

I miss it a lot. When we try. It just seems so empty.

@hideout: you need to talk to her and tell her how you feel

I have. That's how I found out about the breathing. She has tried. But she always turns her head after a couple seconds. Doesn't really open her mouth. I hate it. I have told her. She says she will work on it. But nothing happens.

Sounds like an issue she has, not you. Perhaps she can seek help

@Wurkoutgurl: she is not going to seek help for something she doesn't have a problem with. She can't motivate herself. But she can't motivate herself to get help for that. Perfect example. She got sold on these yoga classes. It was like $10 for like a few trial classes. I knew she wouldn't go. The voucher still hangs on our fridge. She had me buy her a bus pass through my work. I get a deal and it comes right out of my paycheck. Hundreds of dollars wasted because she never once took the bus to work. This stuff used to bother me and her defense when I got annoyed would be to say, "you hate me" and things like that. Challenge me to leave her over it. So my natural reaction was, "no I don't hate you" got put on the defensive. Instead of realizing a pattern of behavior I just wasn't atracted to. Good person. But we both have habits the other cannot stand. Some things that bring us togeather. But romantically we are shit.

@hideout: the whole thing sounds miserable. You wont but if you did leave youd be happier. This sounds toxic and INCREDIBLY codependent. Suffer though. Its clearly what you want

I don't want to suffer. I just don't want to abandon my kids.

Kids can sense everything. My parents stayed together for me and it was hell to see. Its a bullshit excuse for fear. You arnt doing them a favor at all