I wish I could make out with my wife.

@hideout: the whole thing sounds miserable. You wont but if you did leave youd be happier. This sounds toxic and INCREDIBLY codependent. Suffer though. Its clearly what you want

I don't want to suffer. I just don't want to abandon my kids.

Kids can sense everything. My parents stayed together for me and it was hell to see. Its a bullshit excuse for fear. You arnt doing them a favor at all

Maybe. I am not demanding in the right way. I ask sadly for sex. May we please. Blah blah. It's learned behavior I feel. We do have sex. But for instance. Right now. She said we would have sex. Turned into I will get a blow job and go down on her because she is not up for full sex. Turns into let me rest 5 minutes. Turns into let me just nap for a little while. Now she is fully asleep on the couch. And I think you can guess my next move.

Its a pathetic life you live. You should prob change it

Kinda of hard to now.

Yes. But not a lot. When we were getting along. It was about once a week. It was always like a 3. And she would say. We will get to 10 we will have wild next time. Next time. Next time. But we never get there. She is tired or after a couple minutes she says she is sore and wants me to finish.

@hideout: damn dude that's sad.

I make myself the victim. But I do really wish she liked to make out. I would make out with her every night.

No. It's not the smell. She just can't get out of her head that there is breathing so close to her breathing. She says it's just weird to her that she is breathing in someone else's breath. I wish she was honest with me years ago. It used to be, oh your breath smells like weed. And I would brush and it still wasn't better. We used to make out. But she said she did it because she wanted me to like her. Now married with kids. She doesn't mind letting me know.

Probably.