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I doubt he'll ever get it and I don't care

He's found an explantion for his behavior. He's searching online for information about why he says hurtful things. He thinks "desperation" is the reason along with patterns of communication. Desperation as in like a mode of fight or flight and in a panic wanting to get your feelings heard.

I see this as like when a child screams "I hate you" to a parent. Or when you say something immaturely and in anger to a family member, friend, or partner because your feelings are hurt and want their attention.

I told my partner I see what he means and how it could apply, but....

I think the root of the problem is lack of empathy and a sense of entitlement.

I asked him if its desperation when he is saying hurtful things and Im crying, begging him to just stop, but he doesnt? I ask how is it frustating to him when he wont let me sleep because he wants to call me the worst names possible for reasoms ive never figured out and hes never explained.

He says it was just how he was raised. He wasnt allowed to cry or show feelings so he's completely out of touch with how to communicate without saying hurtful things and he never learned about feelings. I told him lots of people were raised where they werent allowed to cry, express feelings. and said /were told hurtful things. Plenty of them choose not to continue that way.

He repeated how he never learned anything different. I pointed out that he does know how to be different because he doest have this problem with anyone else, just me. (Also his ex wife, and probably every woman he ever dated)

He also can turn it of when he wants. Far from a fight or flight emotionall state because he can turn it off to be nice to the dog, when someone else is around, or when we are in public.

Desperation is seen in normal relations having conflict and have poor or sometimes poor communication skills. He'll never recognize that his behavior is abuse because he doesnt want to and I dont care anymore.

The only reason he's calmly talking and doing research on his behavior is because I told him Im done. (What I wrote here is only some of his verbal abuse. He does the othes types of abuse as well.) I've already moved into the office to sleep and have disconnected from him. Hes trying to make me think hes trying to change. He won't and if he does it wont last.
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SnailTeeth · 36-40, M
Of course you care, you're writing an entire post about it.
It's natural to care.
It's natural to want to be close to someone you have feelings of love toward.

Most people don't leave relationships because they want to go.

It is often easier to settle for the Devil you know than no Devil at all.
Men like that can be charming like a hypnotic cobra.

But also, maybe you need to learn not to cry for yourself.
Cry for others, but never yourself.
I know it feels like it can't be helped, but you can catch the triggers.

You can't control your inbox, but you can control your outbox.
This sounds like a lesson you both need to learn.

It's part of maturing, it's part of growing depth and innerspace.

If you leave, then leave.
No song and dance. No show. Just leave.
That leaves space for him to face himself, face his inner misery, face the vacuous void that's making him do this.
And you focus on being happy, positive, and optimistic.

At the end of the day, you're only losing someone who makes your life hell. Robs you of your peace, your self-esteem, and clings to you like shit under your shoe.

Would you rather have a warm, friendly pet that gives you kisses, or are you going to keep going back to the cobra, foolishly expecting them to morph into that warm-blooded companion?

Life's too short for that noise, and there are literally billions of other people.
You don't need him, he needs you.
Notsimilarreally · 31-35, F
You are in such a difficult position. Men like that...smh....you're right he won't change and if he does, it's going to take a lot of time, dedication, honesty and therapy on his part which you don't need to stick around through. Good luck getting out safely 💛
morrgin · F
@Notsimilarreally i used to think if I left it would force him to change and then I could come back. Now I know he'll probably try to change. But only because he wants me back. Not because he's decided to hold himself accountable for his actions or realized the trauma he's caused. He'll only be sad for himself.

I thought leaving was just hard because of the mental barriers a person has that get in the way, like thinking he really does care and he'll eventually realize how much he loves me. Now I see its also finances, housing, transportstion, children, and even pets.

But Im getting there. Sooner than later because staying one more day just might be one day too many and then its too late.
Teslin · M
Not knowing the whole story, to me, it's time to move on.
You seem to admit he will never change.
You should not have to put up with his behavior any longer.
I hope you can leave. He is no doubt a narcissist. Checks all the boxes. I don't know if you've come across Dr Ramani's youtube channel, but her videos are very validating.
Be safe. I hope you get to move out soon
Redman191145 · 46-50, M
Please get yourself out of that situation. No one deserves to be treated like that. People like that do not ever change they only hid it for a while but in the end they only get worse. You deserve someone who will respect and appreciate you. Your partner should always seek and try their best to build you up not break you down and never is it okay for someone to abuse you.
ArishMell · 70-79, M
Really, a problem as serious as that needs professional help.

I hope for your and his sake that he can put all this behind him.
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Northwest · M
Take a deep breath, create an inventory of what you need to do so you an move on, and then move in. You can't fix him so you need to focus on yourself.
Lostpoet · M
It sounds to me like he's just a baby and he doesn't know how to calm down when he's upset. He'll learn or he will lose a lot of people.
morrgin · F
@Lostpoet He already has, but he never stops to consider why. To him, its them that has a problem.
DearAmbellina2113 · 41-45, F
Girl, just move on. Trust me, they don't change.

 
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