Thinking about a potential relationship is exhausting, so I think I’m currently somewhere in the middle.

@juliem Research also shows that the majority of divorced men are or lean conservative, whereas there's no significant difference among women who are divorced or never married.

Divorce rates are also higher in politically red states than in blue states, although that could be in part due to higher marriage rates. But even among Americans that ever married, Republicans are still more likely than Democrats to be divorced.

Idk if you can say they're the happiest marriages when conservatism has such a damaging impact, particularly on men. But relationships are complicated and there's definitely other more relevant factors at play

@TinyViolins conservatism has a damaging impact on men? Where do you get that from? Not from the statistical correlations you cite, I trust. They have several possible explanations as you suggest, nothing supporting the causal you claim. For a careful discussion of the data, see for example, Brad Wilcox's book, Get Married.

@juliem Mostly with regards that conservative men are far more likely to be divorced and far less likely to pursue higher education, which also has a negative impact on marriage viability.

@TinyViolins yes, but confounds all kinds of variables as you know. Family structure matters and it is correlated with class. The affluent are more likely to get married and stay married. But marriage benefits men (and women and children) of all classes. See this site for free data-based material on this.
https://ifstudies.org/search?q=benefits+of+marriage

@juliem Guess "all the research" (Emphasis added) actually does NOT show what you claim...

@SomeMichGuy all the careful research i've seen based on rigorous methods and reliable data, I should have said. Is there any good research that shows otherwise?

@juliem So only what you deem to be "careful" research works...ok.

@SomeMichGuy oh what any competent person would. I mean based on good data sets and research methods. But tell me what you regard as careful or competent research that reaches a different conclusion.

@SomeMichGuy I'm always willing to be corrected. I have such a bibliography but I don't think this is the place for it. It is doubtless incomplete, so if you know of counter-examples, I would love to see them.

@juliem So instead of showing the data for your claim, you are backing down from the claim?

@SomeMichGuy If this were a research journal i would hedge
my assertion with qualifications, of course, but that's not what this is. But again if you know of counter-examples, don't keep them a secret.

@juliem I am only pointing to the info in the reply from @TinyViolins.

But now you are admitting that your statements are not necessarily true unless they are for a journal, and you don't seem to have a list of "all the careful research"...which I'd actually like to look through.

It sounds suspiciously like "all the studies" paid for by wine/alcohol companies which found wine beneficial to one's health.

@SomeMichGuy , you said what i said looks good as a general statement, that's all it was meant to be.

@juliem Your criteria for research, not your "all" statement.

People using the universal quantifiers tend to be wrong unless it's a definition.