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ElwoodBlues · M
It would be a huge mistake to lump all news sources into the same basket. Just because some 'news' sources are sensationally irresponsible, it doesn't mean they all are.
Here's a tip. If a news source runs regular corrections, that's a good sign. NY Times, Wash Post, LA Times; they all run corrections. Regularly. I guarantee you that those dailies you named only run corrections when forced to by a court.
Here's a tip. If a news source runs regular corrections, that's a good sign. NY Times, Wash Post, LA Times; they all run corrections. Regularly. I guarantee you that those dailies you named only run corrections when forced to by a court.
SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
I don't buy into the idea that the UK government deliberately frightened its citizens. For most of the first wave it was reacting to events rather than controlling them. The instinct of the PM was to let nature take its course and prioritise economic activity over human health. Until it was pointed out that allowing old people to die en masse might wipe out his electoral advantage 🤦♀️
sunriselover · M
@SunshineGirl Three points:
Firstly, I remember the AIDs scare, and how humiliating it was for gay men and single men. I was expected to have an AIDs test being single, for a repayment mortgage, even though I was not gay. The same rules did not apply to women. My gay friends had hide their sexuality. why!
Secondly there are other ways of winning seats. I’ve had a boundary change and put in a safe Tory seat. I was in a Tory marginal. And of course the Tories have just bought off the Protestant Northern Ireland MPs with money. So they will support a Tory minority Government after the election.
There were other models during the lockdown. In Spain where I partially live, the first jabs were given to people of working age to keep the economy going. Rather than crippling the Economy with generous handouts. Furlough my foot! Some people did very nicely out of that.
Firstly, I remember the AIDs scare, and how humiliating it was for gay men and single men. I was expected to have an AIDs test being single, for a repayment mortgage, even though I was not gay. The same rules did not apply to women. My gay friends had hide their sexuality. why!
Secondly there are other ways of winning seats. I’ve had a boundary change and put in a safe Tory seat. I was in a Tory marginal. And of course the Tories have just bought off the Protestant Northern Ireland MPs with money. So they will support a Tory minority Government after the election.
There were other models during the lockdown. In Spain where I partially live, the first jabs were given to people of working age to keep the economy going. Rather than crippling the Economy with generous handouts. Furlough my foot! Some people did very nicely out of that.
SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
@sunriselover AIDS was awful. An illiberal government exploited popular fear and prejudice and promoted the idea that it was somehow a divine act to punish sexual promiscuity.
I can't see any parallels with Covid though. We began with something akin to the Swedish model, moved towards more restrictive conditions when people demanded direction and clarity, but were always slightly too late in taking effective action.
I think in Spain children were confined indoors for several months. Our government too prioritised economic activity over education and young peoples welfare 😥
They'll need to do a bit more than gerrymander boundaries to get anything out of the next election!
I can't see any parallels with Covid though. We began with something akin to the Swedish model, moved towards more restrictive conditions when people demanded direction and clarity, but were always slightly too late in taking effective action.
I think in Spain children were confined indoors for several months. Our government too prioritised economic activity over education and young peoples welfare 😥
They'll need to do a bit more than gerrymander boundaries to get anything out of the next election!
sunriselover · M
My wife reads the Daily Mail, she believes all their alarm stories. Including their bogus weather stories, and every potential virus attack.
The covid response made it very clear to governments how very easy it is to control us. And they invent or provoke some distant crisis to give us fear.
The AIDs crisis, before you were born Miss Puddleduck, was used to persecute gay men, and flatten their lifestyle and human rights.
The covid response made it very clear to governments how very easy it is to control us. And they invent or provoke some distant crisis to give us fear.
The AIDs crisis, before you were born Miss Puddleduck, was used to persecute gay men, and flatten their lifestyle and human rights.
sascha · F
Can we see now that we have no freedom, and that our liberties are superficial and subject to change, particularly when we collectively endorse and allow it?
Words that media outlets use should be read and considered properly. "Says US study" means one US study, and "could" only means it is possible, according to what is still likely to be one study. The Telegraph article had the words "study suggests" included, and "study" can mean anything. It usually means very minimal research, often in the form of a survey, conducted by very few researchers, with only a small group to survey.
Words that media outlets use should be read and considered properly. "Says US study" means one US study, and "could" only means it is possible, according to what is still likely to be one study. The Telegraph article had the words "study suggests" included, and "study" can mean anything. It usually means very minimal research, often in the form of a survey, conducted by very few researchers, with only a small group to survey.
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NerdyPotato · M
@Jemimapuddleduck that seemed to be the common consensus worldwide, and still seems to be. The pandemic still poses major risks, but politicians followed the uninformed voters into denying and/or not caring. Which is especially ironic as the politicians were the ones failing to inform the voters.
Jemimapuddleduck · 31-35, F
@NerdyPotato I wouldn't trust any of them. They are supposed to make decisions on our behalf that affects every aspect of our lives, but they just prove each time how corrupt they are. They lie, they look down on the public, make false promises to get votes. It's been the same year in and year out. They are not interested in the needs of their constituents and serve their monied interests.
NerdyPotato · M
@Jemimapuddleduck true... They're all in service of capitalism, especially on the short term. For the next year or two it was more profitable to ignore the virus and just let it spread, so politicians convinced everyone it was nothing to worry about, and so everyone kept doing their thing.
That it will cause major trouble in the long term to make a large portion of the population disabled is something for the next government to worry about.
That it will cause major trouble in the long term to make a large portion of the population disabled is something for the next government to worry about.