Pretty certain that jordan peterson has never read road to wigan pier.
He claimed that the book helped turn him away from socialism whereas in actuality is actually strongly advocating socialism
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random1232 · 26-30, M
i dont know anything about this topic but what i can tell u is that you are using faulty reasoning with that logic.
Guitarman123 · 31-35, M
@random1232 from Maps of Meaning:
*“*My college roommate, an insightful cynic, expressed skepticism regarding my ideological beliefs. He told me that the world could not be completely encapsulated within the boundaries of socialist philosophy. I had more or less come to this conclusion on my own, but had not admitted so much in words. Soon afterward, however, I read George Orwell’s Road to Wigan Pier. This book finally undermined me—not only my socialist ideology, but my faith in ideological stances themselves. In the famous essay concluding that book (written for—and much to the dismay of—the British Left Book Club) Orwell described the great flaw of socialism, and the reason for its frequent failure to attract and maintain democratic power (at least in Britain). Orwell said, essentially, that socialists did not really like the poor. They merely hated the rich. His idea struck home instantly. Socialist ideology served to mask resentment and hatred, bred by failure. Many of the party activists I had encountered were using the ideals of social justice to rationalize their pursuit of personal revenge.”
*“*My college roommate, an insightful cynic, expressed skepticism regarding my ideological beliefs. He told me that the world could not be completely encapsulated within the boundaries of socialist philosophy. I had more or less come to this conclusion on my own, but had not admitted so much in words. Soon afterward, however, I read George Orwell’s Road to Wigan Pier. This book finally undermined me—not only my socialist ideology, but my faith in ideological stances themselves. In the famous essay concluding that book (written for—and much to the dismay of—the British Left Book Club) Orwell described the great flaw of socialism, and the reason for its frequent failure to attract and maintain democratic power (at least in Britain). Orwell said, essentially, that socialists did not really like the poor. They merely hated the rich. His idea struck home instantly. Socialist ideology served to mask resentment and hatred, bred by failure. Many of the party activists I had encountered were using the ideals of social justice to rationalize their pursuit of personal revenge.”
random1232 · 26-30, M
@Guitarman123 f u can follow his line of reasoning, then it doesnt matter the contents of the book. his interpretation of the book could be anything - similar to how 10 people can read the bible and each person ends up with totally variable conclusions ranging from total rejection to total acceptance
Guitarman123 · 31-35, M
@random1232 it makes no sense orwell in the book is strongly advocating for socialism and sees it as the only way to fight against fascism
random1232 · 26-30, M
@Guitarman123 idk, maybe ur right, but i dont see why it matters still i guess. his conclusion and reasoning is more important