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CountScrofula · 41-45, M
I looked up a few popular figures I loathe like Churchill or Musk or whatever and honestly their quotes are all dribbling bullshit that just come down to "Try hard and be optimistic and don't take no for an answer!"
So there's probably some, but fuck it. They suck.
So there's probably some, but fuck it. They suck.
BlueMetalChick · 26-30, F
@CountScrofula I admire Churchill from a political perspective but as a person he was quite a fat pasty drunkard.
Musk is a greedy sack of shit.
Musk is a greedy sack of shit.
CountScrofula · 41-45, M
@BlueMetalChick I'm not to big on him politically. He was a genocidal maniac with good PR. Some quotes:
On a 1943 famine in Bengal, and why he let 3 million die without sending food:
"If food is scarce, why isn't Gandhi dead yet?'
"Relief would do no good. Indians breed like rabbits and will outstrip any available food supply."
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On the displacement of Arabs to create Israel.
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On fascism and Mussolini
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I can go on and on and on and on. This is shit he -said- let alone the stuff he did. The dude is responsible for millions of deaths and was an insane racist and tyrant.
On a 1943 famine in Bengal, and why he let 3 million die without sending food:
"If food is scarce, why isn't Gandhi dead yet?'
"Relief would do no good. Indians breed like rabbits and will outstrip any available food supply."
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On the displacement of Arabs to create Israel.
“I do not agree that the dog in a manger has the final right to the manger even though he may have lain there for a very long time. I do not admit that right. I do not admit for instance, that a great wrong has been done to the Red Indians of America or the black people of Australia. I do not admit that a wrong has been done to these people by the fact that a stronger race, a higher-grade race, a more worldly wise race to put it that way, has come in and taken their place.”
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On fascism and Mussolini
"What a man! I have lost my heart!… Fascism has rendered a service to the entire world… If I were Italian, I am sure I would have been with you entirely from the beginning of your victorious struggle against the bestial appetites and passion of Leninism.”
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I can go on and on and on and on. This is shit he -said- let alone the stuff he did. The dude is responsible for millions of deaths and was an insane racist and tyrant.
BlueMetalChick · 26-30, F
@CountScrofula That's just my point though, he did the right things for the wrong reasons. It's called the Golding special maneuver. It turned out to be the winning move from a historical standpoint but he did it for the improper causes.
CountScrofula · 41-45, M
@BlueMetalChick Maybe we need to break down what admire means before I go a-ranting.
Like, what makes him admirable while someone like Elon Musk is not admirable? They're both super successful men, and Elno Musk is a liar and con artist which are traits I assumed you had some respect for.
Like, what makes him admirable while someone like Elon Musk is not admirable? They're both super successful men, and Elno Musk is a liar and con artist which are traits I assumed you had some respect for.
BlueMetalChick · 26-30, F
@CountScrofula The difference is, despite them both being shitheads, Churchill managed to stay on the right side of the fence (by accident) while Musk has not. Musk has actively set up back. He's made the situation worse. Churchill looked up to the wrong people, the example you gave of Mussolini was excellent, but his insistence on fighting the Nazis as opposed to make peace with them, even if driven from the wrong side of the moral spectrum, turned out to be the right thing to do. As where Musk's groveling before the military industrial complex in exchange for his big money contract has severed the head of space exploration and will prevent us from being successful now.