@ twistermind - Had this argument with my brother about whether voting is valuable. I said no because we only vote like one every few years, so how can you effect change that way. The only way to get things done is to be loud and obnoxious and remind the civil service that WE pay their salaries, that in effect WE are their bosses and I for one really don't want to hear the words "we can't" or "we don't" when it is painfully obvious that you could if you hadn't bloody wasted our tax money!