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To Love Love (or "Please, don't mind me")

What is it that you humans want?
Do you want to be so thoroughly together that you’re never at any time apart? If that’s what you want, I’d be glad to weld you together, to fuse you into a single person, instead of being two separate people, so that during your lifetime as a single person the two of you share a single life, and then, when you die, you die as a single person, not as two separate people, and you share a single death there in Hades. Think about it: is this your hearts’ desire? If this happened to you, would it bring you happiness?


The starting-point is for you to understand human nature and what has happened to it…

…Each person’s shape was complete: they were round, with their backs and sides forming a circle. They had four hands and the same number of legs, and two absolutely identical faces on a cylindrical neck. They had a single head for their two faces (which were on opposite sides), four ears, two sets of genitals, and every other part of their bodies was how you’d imagine it on the basis of what I’ve said. They moved around in an upright position, as we do today, in either of their two forward directions; and when it came to running, they supported themselves on all eight of their limbs and moved rapidly round and round, just like when acrobats perform that circular manoeuvre where they stick their legs out straight and wheel over and over.

Now, their strength and power were terrifying, and they were also highly ambitious. They even had a go at the gods.

So Zeus and the rest of the gods met in council to try to decide what to do with them.

Zeus said, “I think I can see a way for the human race to exist, but to be weakened enough to start behaving with some moderation…”

…With these words, he cut every member of the human race in half, just as people cut sorb-apples in half when they’re going to preserve them, or cut an egg in two with a hair.

It was their very essence that had been split in two, so each half missed its other half and tried to be with it; they threw their arms around each other in an embrace and longed to be grafted together. As a result, because they refused to do anything without their other halves, they died of starvation and general apathy.”

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Endlessly I sustain the discourse of the beloved’s absence; actually a preposterous situation: the other is absent as referent, present as allocutory.

But isn’t desire always the same, whether the object is present or absent? Isn’t the object always absent?

Absence persists — I must endure it. Hence I will manipulate it: transform the distortion of time into oscillation, produce rhythm, make an entrance onto the stage of language. Absence becomes an active practice, there is a creation of a fiction which has many roles (doubts, reproaches, desires, melancholies)... To manipulate absence is to extend this interval, to delay as long as possible the moment when the other might topple sharply from absence into death.

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Am I in love? — Yes, since I am waiting. The other one never waits. Sometimes I want to play the part of the one who doesn't wait; I try to busy myself elsewhere, to arrive late; but I always lose at this game. Whatever I do, I find myself there, with nothing to do, punctual, even ahead of time. The lover's fatal identity is precisely this: I am the one who waits.

So it is a lover who speaks and who says: I am engulfed, I succumb…

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SW-User
I think it’s a great sentiment that people compliment or complete each other. I am not certain it’s healthy to persist in that ideal.

I don’t need to know the reason for your waiting.
If there as a promised sign..be patient, hopeful etc..
Don’t allow yourself to become consumed by it.
Time moves , whether we act or not.
Time spent alone is not a bad thing.
Only you know the circumstances..
Only you can decide whether it is worth expending
Energy on waiting
JimboSaturn · 51-55, M
@SW-User I don't think there is completion and lack of loneliness in life; it is part of the human condition.
SW-User
@JimboSaturn Hmmmm then why doesn't everyone experience it the same way?
JimboSaturn · 51-55, M
@SW-User Loneliness, incompletion feelings? Well I'm not a philosopher or expert on life but I feel that one can train and discipline yourself to accept life and make it noble for yourself. I personally TRY to adhere to stoicism.
MrSmooTh · 31-35, M
I had an idea for a novel a while back. The idea is a guy is in a town staying at and watching over his friends house while the friend is away. While he is in town he keeps running into this woman who seems to keep disappearing. Eventually he sees her in the house and they develop a romantic relationship. Then you find out that she is really a ghost and is pretty much bound to the house and can't leave it for very long. You know this, but the main character won't. As time goes on, you'll find out that there is no friend that owns the house. From the outside it looks run down and abandoned. Inside the house looks pretty much the same except to the main character who sees it as a luxurious mansion. Then the ghost woman has a change of heart and reveals the truth to the man who struggles to believe it. The local authorities eventually find out that the guy is in this abandoned house. They tell him to leave but he refuses to leave. At the end he accepts the truth that the woman is a ghost and says that it's ok. Chooses to join her in death and jumps through the window in the attic.
SW-User
I get the distinction..
The loneliness refers back to @SW-User the Plato excerpt?
I can’t remember all the specifics about the conversation now…with a former coworker ..generally, the conversation was about relationships..and the connection was made(no pun)
With enzymes, substrates and active sites.
SW-User
@SW-User Enzymes, active sites and relationships? This should be interesting 👀
SW-User
A very high level idea around completeness and finding the right fit😂@SW-User
funfan · 51-55, M
This post represents exactly why your unique voice was missed here the last few years. Not having much much mas tiempo un momento, I bookmarked to read later and then re-read as well. 🌞
SW-User
@funfan 🖤
jfox4anr · 46-50, M
Very interesting read…Yes when absence leads to abandonment…thats suffering on another level
SW-User
@jfox4anr so much for trying to define love
Valerian · 100+, M
Wow .... Nice! Thanks for posting this.
i saved it as a pdf to print when i buy more ink!
Iwantyourhotwife · 22-25
Is this your book?
SW-User
@Iwantyourhotwife I mean...I have bought them both, yes👀
Iwantyourhotwife · 22-25
@SW-User man, your library is loaded with these and I got One Fish Two Fish out here. We're not the same
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