Are you getting the vaccine? I dont trust it at all. Lord only knows whats in it and what kind of effects itll have in the future.

@wildbill83 People have had it twice Bill ,I had it but still got my Jabs

@GovanDUNNY and people with the vax are getting it. What's your point

@Callmewhatyouwill I know that, it does not work for some Sibo

@GovanDUNNY ok, but that doesn't change my question. Many of us have antibodies already without the poke. Taking away every other politically based argument, why do we need the jab too natural immunity is at least as effective as vaccination.

@Callmewhatyouwill Antibodies weaken after awhile I was giving plasma then the antibodies werent as good after 5th time, now I just give blood.

@GovanDUNNY so do vaccines... That why a flu shot is supposedly annual.

Directly related to covid was this... Granted it's very difficult to find anything that straight numbers but this is the closest I could find.

But you still haven't answered the question. For the many of us that do have antibodies, why should we also need the vax?

https://www.nih.gov/news-events/nih-research-matters/lasting-immunity-found-after-recovery-covid-19

@Callmewhatyouwill Because you can get it twice even with two jabs immunity isn't forever

@GovanDUNNY So whats the difference? If you can get it either way why take the jab if you already had it..

It's a very simple question to answer.

@Callmewhatyouwill last time sibo - Because you can get it twice even with two jabs immunity isn't forever

@GovanDUNNY natural/herd immunity is [b]always[/b] more effective than vaccines. It's simple biology (or [i]natural selection[/i] if you prefer). The same applies to any virus

antibodies do not weaken over time as you claim, in fact, they get even better with exposure (your immune system works better when it's actively fighting off foreign bodies/infection).

for example; while many people suffer severe allergic reactions from insect bites, bee stings, poison oak/ivy/sumac, etc. others don't because we've been exposed to it enough over time that our immune system/antibodies are resistant to it/more efficient at fighting it. The same is likely true of most allergies (milk, nuts, etc.)

@wildbill83 They decrease in number Bill,Period. Thats why I went from giving Plasma to giving blood

@GovanDUNNY you still aren't answering the question.

@Callmewhatyouwill I have answered , we disagree on antibodies ,so be it. I respect your opinion keep believing it.

The hospital where I donated plasma explained my antibodies werent as effective as when I started giving plasma , so I give blood instead im o negative and give it regularly. Im done here

@GovanDUNNY my question has absolutely nothing to do with you donating anything or what some phlebotomy tech told you.

It's a simple question, if you have natural antibodies from recovering from covid, why do you also need the vaccine?

@Callmewhatyouwill Because you CAN get Covid twice .thats it ok or can you not comprehend what Im saying

@Callmewhatyouwill More than nine in 10 adults in the UK are likely to have Covid-19 antibodies, with levels continuing to increase in all nations and regions, figures show.

However the rate of increase is starting to show signs of slowing down.

The presence of antibodies suggests someone has had the infection in the past or has been vaccinated.

It takes between two and three weeks after infection or vaccination for the body to make enough antibodies to fight the virus.

They then remain in the blood at low levels, although these can decline over time to the point that tests can no longer detect them.

@GovanDUNNY [quote]It takes between two and three weeks after infection or vaccination for the body to make enough antibodies to fight the virus.[/quote]

wrong. For many of us, the symptoms were no worse than a common cold. I testing positive for it, a week later when I had my regular doctor visit, had no trace of it.

@wildbill83 So did I , you can get it twice Bill I know people who have mate

@GovanDUNNY I had it bad Bill Lost loads of weight ,but not hospitilised

@GovanDUNNY and? so? therefore?

everyone should just bury their heads in the sand every time they get sick from something? 🤔

@wildbill83 no get jabs. They either work or dont .that's my opinion .