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Legalize drugs and end the war on drugs

I think we should legalize drugs like cocaine, meth and heroin. I think it’s a mistake to do drugs but everyone should have a right to make mistakes. What we put in our bodies should be up to each individual adult.
The war on drugs is based on ignorance and lies. It has caused more harm than the drugs themselves.
Here is something everyone should know. The great majority of people who do drugs do not have a drug problem. 70 to 80 percent of these people do their drugs and still live responsible lives.
I have to add something to this because people tend to make unfounded accusations against me. I do not do drugs. I quit drinking alcohol 5 months ago. I smoked marijuana about 5 times 30 years ago and did not like it. But people who do not want to discuss the facts tend to make ad hominem attacks against me.
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SteelHands · 61-69, M
Drugs are illegal for many reasons.

There is an industry and government regulating branch that allows their legitimate use. Those are both poorly run at the moment and need to be run better but I have no problem with that arrangement.

Non legitimate use includes people under drug influence doing their jobs, driving their cars, raising and teaching kids -in haphazard, incompetent or dangerous ways.

The intentional enticement to solve all of life's many complex problems by addicting people to drugs is societally harmful and deswtructive of the individual in almost every example.
MrBrownstone · 46-50, M
@SteelHands Same can be said for prescription drugs and alcohol.
SteelHands · 61-69, M
@MrBrownstone Whataboutism doesn't negate the devestating destruction of the human mind, the societal tolls or the personal losses of unfettered access to those poisons.
MrBrownstone · 46-50, M
@SteelHands When did I say what about?
Bandit2398 · 51-55, M
People have access to drugs whether they are illegal or not. You should watch some dr Carl hart videos and dr gabor mate. @SteelHands
SteelHands · 61-69, M
@MrBrownstone Omitting the actual words "what about" won't undo the concept from being pointed out. Pointing at one thing to distract from the relevance of something else is called whataboutism.

@Bandit2398 I repeat. There are agencies which are charged with the control of access to those things. Growing investments by those same oversight agencies of the private prison industrys explains a lot. The top down official claim of a war on drugs and the verbiage that they used to try to justify these horrible things doesn't escape my awareness. It shouldn't escape your awareness either.

The drug problem is being perpetuated by the very people who claim they're trying to solve it. To be sure, addicts also add their own advocation for the reduction in societal disapproval of drug addiction. The associated crimes and misadventures, preventable incarcerations, ruination of people who worship drugs on a daily basis.

I'm as opposed to them, and so should anyone else be, as to evil itself.
MrBrownstone · 46-50, M
@SteelHands Ignoring my post doesn’t negate the fact.
Bandit2398 · 51-55, M
I guess I’m not too smart because I’m not sure what you are trying to say. Are you for or against legalizing drugs? @SteelHands
SteelHands · 61-69, M
@Bandit2398You might need to read it over. My opinion of drug legalization is crystal clear.

@MrBrownstone I didn't ignore it. In as few words as possible.

I think anyone who thinks legalizing drugs like meth, cocaine, heroin or the like is not a terrible idea is either stark raving insane or brain damaged from drug use.
MrBrownstone · 46-50, M
@SteelHands How has making them illegal stopped them from being used?
SteelHands · 61-69, M
@MrBrownstone By keeping them costly and difficult to obtain.
MrBrownstone · 46-50, M
@SteelHands So it hasn’t stopped it. Thanks.
Bandit2398 · 51-55, M
@SteelHands we cannot even stop our prisoners from getting drugs. So keeping it costly doesn’t seem to work.
MrBrownstone · 46-50, M
@Bandit2398 He is just doing whataboutism
SteelHands · 61-69, M
Only permanent, unretrievable brain damage could cause someone to believe that drugs are not dangerous and expensive. Only someone who doesn't take responsibility for their own actions would think that all of society isn't paying a high price for the addictions of the few who think drugs are easily available.

And only a brain damaged person would not know that anyone who is manufacturing, peddling, pushing narcotics, making it easier for ignorant young people to fall into the trap of becoming mentally deranged by drugs is despised by almost all of society. Including the ones who became addicted through a doctors pen.
SteelHands · 61-69, M
@Bandit2398 I addressed the neglegence aspect of the enforcement agencies and those in the distribution stream allowing it to happen.

We coild stop anyone, especially prisoners from getting drugs if we didn't elect drug addicts into government.

I am all for regular drug screening of anyone who gets paid by tax money.

That would end the problem quick.
Bandit2398 · 51-55, M
Now I understand. There have been many countries that have tried to stop people from using drugs and they all failed. Did you know Switzerland used to have a terrible problem with heroin use. But then they tried something new. They opened up clinics where they gave drug addicts 2 high doses of heroin a day. This program has been a great success and has helped people quit doing drugs. I hope you don’t believe me and fact check it for yourself. @SteelHands
SteelHands · 61-69, M
@Bandit2398 We already subsidize Switzerland but knowing that we should stop.

On behalf of all taxpayers I'm gonna tell you something.

I wouldn't subsidize my own child's addiction and if you think I will for you then you're more brain damaged even than I thought possible.

Drug pushers need to be stripped absolutely of all assets and anyone they gave gifts to likewise.

Addicts? Keep caging them. That's the only thing that's appropriate to do with dangerous idiots.

Politicians and civil servants who we know are involved in taking bribes need to get the death penalty.

Drugs will disappear overnight if that law gets passed. And Switzerland is a microsystem compared to this Country and continent. There's no way that would work here anyway.
Bandit2398 · 51-55, M
I’m a taxpayer too. @SteelHands
SteelHands · 61-69, M
@Bandit2398 Here's why drugs need to go.

About 5%-10% of all the addicts on average die of overdoses and every year more addicts add to the total number of addicts. (see graphs)

Around 60,000 deaths a year from heroin and fentanyl.

Around 16000 deaths a year from Meth.

What this means. Around 1.2 million opioid addicts, around 350,000 meth addicts.

The street trade in these drugs conceals several things.

First, the massive quantities required to supply these addicts with their substances each year cannot be purely outside of enforcement controls.

At only one gram a day per addict. Though the actual amounts probably average a few. Between a half million and a million pounds a year of those drugs are circulated through the system.

Roughly 3 billion dollars in drug profits.

Sickening as it is, this means that the government would have to have people involved to get that much into the country, and that amount to raw materials for a meth labs, as well as big business controls of those chemicals, and both are profiting from those deaths.

Frankly as for the addicts my opinion is that they're already a lost cause. As for those dealers in death. I am disgusted by them and hope that someone like Trump gets in again. To expose and see them pay the ultimate price, just as the filthy sex peddler Epstien was finally brought down.

Let me make myself clearer. I know that it was just one Epstein, and just a few years of cutting off the drug supplys.

And now we see because this administration is not even trying to hide it.

Get off the horse and crystals kids. The next one is going to make Trump look like a sunday school teacher.

You can quote me on that.
Bandit2398 · 51-55, M
@SteelHands “ In a controversy the instant we feel anger we have already ceased striving for the truth, and have begun striving for ourselves.”
Buddha
I don’t know how to debate someone who gets angry and ignores any evidence that proves him wrong.
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