I Have Something to Say

Look, if you are really interested in reading the history and getting a sense of the time then rather than transferring current day cocepts back to there, there are wonderful non-religious based resources available. Thanks for the chat.

@Zeusdelight plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose

Thank you.

True, to an extent. @suzie1960

@Zeusdelight The same can be said of The Flying Spaghetti Monster. The point is, christians claim to have evidence but, when asked, are unable to present it. Why make the claim if they can't follow through? It's just further evidence of christianity's deception.

Some Christians claim to have evidence. They are misguided. I don’t know why they make the claim they have evidence and am not here to defend them.

@booboo Belief is the basis of all religions, christianity is no different in that respect.

@suzie1960 true, it's faith based..but Christianity says "believe in what God has already done..the finished work of Christ", not "what you yourself can/will do by follow the law"..

@booboo That presume one already believes, it's a belief based on a belief.

@suzie1960 A few examples are not evidence. I did not claim that Christians in general show charity towards those who don’t share their faith (though I believe that most do). I merely informed you that those I know do. It is also true of those I have known in the past. And what are your continual posts if not propaganda?

@MartinII Those examples are evidence of what I said. What more do you want?

My posts are expressions of my views and , [i]inter alia[/i] to counter christian propaganda. Unlike the christians I mention , I do not post propaganda in place of evidence. If you believe I do, provide real evidence. As you don't accept examples as evidence, obviously you will need to use something else.

Maybe some christians are tolerant of non-christians but a lot aren't. When I first tried to break free of christiaity I was continually harassed to return. When that didn't work they followed up with threats and even physical assault. If you had gone through what I did you'd understand my views a lot better.

Maybe I have misunderstood. I thought you were claiming that Christians in general, or Christians typically, behaved in the way you describe. To substantiate such a claim, more than examples would be needed. But if you are only claiming that some individual Christians behave in that way then there is no dispute, and examples of the kind you quote demonstrate it. One might add, however, so what? The same could be said of adherents to almost any religion or any quasi-religious belief system, such as political ideologies.

I’m sorry to hear about your own experience, and I quite understand how that might make someone hostile to Christianity or at least a particular branch of it. Mine is, as it were, equal but opposite. Having been brought up as a non-conformist I decided, aged 12 or 13, that I was an atheist and I have never wavered from that decision in the subsequent 55 years. My consequent withdrawal from Sunday School, the Boy Scouts etc occasioned no reprisals, just a degree of disappointment on the part of my mother. Much later I was married for 17 years to a Roman Catholic and was treated with nothing but consideration by believers with whom I came into contact, including especially the priest who married us and the priest who intoned the Requiem Mass over her body. Of course neither my experience, nor yours, proves anything more general about Christians or Christianity.