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What do you think of men who do this?

At work we have this trash collector. He's a young guy of 20 or 22.

He frequently lowers his gaze when he talks to women. Like he never looks you in the eye. Just the 1st glance then he looks down/away.

He's a religious muslim and in Islam that's part of the teachings. It's called غض البصر. Don't stare so you don't get turned on.

But it's an obsolete one nowadays and most don't do it anyway.

Some women get offended by the extreme lack of eye contact. Some are trying to mock & tease him.

As a whole we kinda find it funny & out of place bc he's overdoing it. With the guys his eye contact is just fine.

But – personally I kinda feel bad for him and think it's cute. He's very polite and sort of shy otherwise. I told my female coworkers to leave him tf alone.
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Hassan · 22-25, M
Well , looking down means he's turned on or will get.
This is not strength dear, islam is all about repression .. It's easier to not think of a pink elephant when u don't repress yourself from it.
For long, religions portrayed women as evil who'll drift u away from god.
I can have sex everyday and be close to god.
We were born from sex, if sex wasn't pleasureble you wouldn't do it.
We destroyed women in the middle east, repressed sexual thoughts and now what we got? Men addicted to porn, can't make a conversation with women, rape...

We should look at things from the big image Asmae and be realistic. We as species don't know anything abt sex.
Look at how miserable people are bcz religions taught them that they only should have sex with one partner. They turn their marriage to fights and hell.

We should alll tell these men wether they r religious ,monks priests... that Celibacy is enough, enough spending time with boyfriends😂😂 get to know girls, they're not evil.

Like a child stops playing with his toys on the onset of 9-10 without Celibacy or repression,one stops sex once he discovers something more intense. It's a stage of growing that should be embraced.

Unless these people had to go celibate to stop playing with toys then idk😂😂😂
Moon3624 · 18-21, F
@Hassan


“ religions portrayed women as evil who'll drift u away from god.”

How does this post got to do with women being portrayed as evil when in Islam both genders have to lower their gaze when they start to sexually check out the other gender ?😂 but oh no people like you love to hurry to make women the victim.

And Islam does encourage sexual Inter course and even rewards you for it when it’s done in a marriage.
And islam does not repress educational talk of topics like sex and menstrual cycle etc as
Prophet Mohammed used to educate people about it without shying away.

“ They turn their marriage to fights and hell.”

They are plenty of people in this world who are in a healthy loving marriage.
Hassan · 22-25, M
@Moon3624 yea that's why all Islamic countries r on top of the world and loved by all people.

But don't worry, there's a big conspiracy against Muslims. They're angels and we portray them as devils.
Moon3624 · 18-21, F
@Hassan
generalization is the language of the ignorant.
you are hinting at the idea that all Muslims are devils which shows the leve of your intellect.
Middle eastern countries are not the only Muslim countries also , there are Muslims spread out across the earth.
Plus despite the current situation in some parts of the Middle East there are still many pros in it.
Furthermore , there were times when Muslim kingdoms were in the lead and other times they are not. Those constantly changing situations and factors do not determine if this religion is right or wrong.
To debate a religion , you refer to its text.
And as a Saudi , my parents had a beautiful and loving marriage
All of my sisters are in a loving healthy marriage etc…
So don’t go generalize your bullshit.

And God in the Quran promises to make the disbelievers live a wonderful life on earth
And I quote :
Az-Zukhruf - Verse 33-24


{Were it not that people might ˹be tempted to˺ become one community ˹of disbelievers˺, We would have supplied the homes of ˹only˺ those who disbelieve in the Most Compassionate with silver roofs and ˹silver˺ stairways to ascend,
as well as ˹silver˺ gates and thrones to recline on, and ornaments ˹of gold˺. Yet all this is no more than a ˹fleeting˺ enjoyment in this worldly life. ˹But˺ the Hereafter with your Lord is ˹only˺ for those mindful ˹of Him˺.}

Ali 'Imran - Verse 196
{
Do not be deceived by the prosperity of the disbelievers throughout the land.
It is only a brief enjoyment. Then Hell will be their home—what an evil place to rest!}

Al-Qasas - Verse 61
{
Then is he whom We have promised a good promise which he will obtain like he for whom We provided enjoyment of worldly life [but] then he is, on the Day of Resurrection, among those presented [for punishment in Hell]?
}


As for ur last statement , I don’t need to prove that there has been conspiracy and western proxy wars in the region 😂 but I believe thats not an excuse for the weakness of the Muslim nation.
Although prophet Mohammed predicted it.

Hava good day
Hassan · 22-25, M
@Moon3624 I just read the first sentence,ain't gonna read the rest.
If it was a good religion everyone would understand it the same way.
All the people who preaches( u r one of em) r lifeless.
Get over it.
Science and psychology rules. We are in the 21st century, saints are like any good people who r trying to do good today for the sake of humanity.
It's just the label that changed, good people who r educated r what were called saints and prophets back then.
The earth is dying and the last thing it needs is holy books
Plant a tree or wake up people tp the effect of waste and pollution.
Quran ,Muhammad,Jesus ... are just history, if there's goodness within u do good to earth n people.
Other wise you'll just be stating facts,praying,fasting while wars, pollution, and existential crisis screw up our planet.
Moon3624 · 18-21, F
@Hassan

“ If it was a good religion everyone would understand it the same way.”
Nope even during the life of prophet Mohammed himself , Muslims would do wrong things and he’d lecture them on it
Not every Muslim Is knowledgeable enough about Islam
Not every Muslim practices Islam to the letter
And not every Muslim is a real Muslim , many hypocrites.
Even the Quran mentions this ..

And for a person who said “I am not gonna read the rest “
That’s quiet a long reply 😅
I am a student of science ,
Never saw a reason for me to choose between Islam and science
If anything Islam does encourage science and learning.

Funny how you say “plant a tree
And combat population and waste “
Yet islam encourage and command that in various texts .

What’s hilarious is that I am currently writing a paper on enhancing the weathering of minerals for carbon capture to reduce global warming
While being a religious Muslim
What did you do ? I wonder
Hassan · 22-25, M
@Moon3624 you're back to state facts and history. If you wanna be good , do it in the name of humanity.
I have a free will and I strive for goodness.
I.ain't a sheep.to follow a shepherd
Moon3624 · 18-21, F
@Hassan
You couldn’t reply to any of the points I mentioned not even the last one so you started to throw random words.

Anyways,

Al-Kahf - Verse 103-105

{
Say, ˹O Prophet,˺ “Shall we inform you of who will lose the most deeds?
˹They are˺ those whose efforts are in vain in this worldly life, while they think they are doing good!”
It is they who reject the signs of their Lord and their meeting with Him, rendering their deeds void, so We will not give their deeds any weight on Judgment Day.}

Have a good day 💆‍♀️
Hassan · 22-25, M
@Moon3624 back again to copy paste 😂
It's over, no one cares .
Debates r pointless , only time can tell.
It's good to eat, be nice human, love n be loved , laugh,breath... otherwise idc, if I'm doing smth bad I'll get karma. Bye for now
Moon3624 · 18-21, F
@Hassan
You cannot handle an adult conversation
So you started to throw random childish comments like “no one cares it’s over “

Leave the verses aside , You couldn’t reply to one single point I made.

Indeed, goodbye.