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Eternity · 26-30, M
Hmmm. Society making you feel bad for looking out for your own interest kind of sucks.
If a woman isn't happy everyone tells her to do whatever she needs to do to get happy. Leave her man, uproot the kids, whatever she needs.
But if a man isn't happy and he leaves his woman or his kids then he is a terrible deadbeat or ungrateful.
Also, we dont seem to be allowed to have standards.
Women can make lists of shit they want in men, even if they themselves are fugly or plain or poor, and thats fine.
Men say they just want a woman who isn't morbidly obese and everyone starts foaming at the mouth.
Now, all these issues can be easily mitigated by not giving a fuck.
But not giving a fuck comes with a certain amount of alienation that some people can handle but plenty cannot.
Which is why men tend to have higher levels of narcissism or being emotionally distant.
We often find ourselves in societal/interpersonal situations where we have to be our own support system, and that can easily evolve into problematic pathologies.
If a woman isn't happy everyone tells her to do whatever she needs to do to get happy. Leave her man, uproot the kids, whatever she needs.
But if a man isn't happy and he leaves his woman or his kids then he is a terrible deadbeat or ungrateful.
Also, we dont seem to be allowed to have standards.
Women can make lists of shit they want in men, even if they themselves are fugly or plain or poor, and thats fine.
Men say they just want a woman who isn't morbidly obese and everyone starts foaming at the mouth.
Now, all these issues can be easily mitigated by not giving a fuck.
But not giving a fuck comes with a certain amount of alienation that some people can handle but plenty cannot.
Which is why men tend to have higher levels of narcissism or being emotionally distant.
We often find ourselves in societal/interpersonal situations where we have to be our own support system, and that can easily evolve into problematic pathologies.
DearAmbellina2113 · 41-45, F
@Eternity I see your point but the things you speak of stem from centuries of women being seen/treated as second-class citizens who for a very very long time did NOT have the options to pursue their own happiness and well-being. The tables are still turning, and I see a lot of men struggling with that.
Queendragonfly · 31-35, F
@DearAmbellina2113 And you wouldn't react negatively when men say "men struggle too" in a post about women as victims?
Because that's his point.
Because that's his point.
DearAmbellina2113 · 41-45, F
@Queendragonfly men struggle in their own ways, sure. But they have never in history been "the underdog" (white straight men, just to clarify). So there is a difference.
Queendragonfly · 31-35, F
@Eternity Best summed up description of men's struggles. I would give you "Best comment" but I saw dammit, not my post.
I especially like that you enhanced the constant double standards men have to face. One you didn't mention. In court over child custody where the mother is somehow the best parent even if she's the abuser or more unstable one. And if you as the father get custody you are "Taking the children from their mother" and everyone judges you.
But if she gets custody everyone just say "The mom should be with the kids"
My mom brutally cruelly abused my siblings and my dad was saving us. But the society would never allow anyone to say she was a bad mother. She was depressed, she was miserable, she was struggling she was *sympathy sympathy sympathy*
She is a fucking witch monster of a fake mother cold hearted narcissist. And it's time we can say that about the bad parent. Not just the bad father.
I especially like that you enhanced the constant double standards men have to face. One you didn't mention. In court over child custody where the mother is somehow the best parent even if she's the abuser or more unstable one. And if you as the father get custody you are "Taking the children from their mother" and everyone judges you.
But if she gets custody everyone just say "The mom should be with the kids"
My mom brutally cruelly abused my siblings and my dad was saving us. But the society would never allow anyone to say she was a bad mother. She was depressed, she was miserable, she was struggling she was *sympathy sympathy sympathy*
She is a fucking witch monster of a fake mother cold hearted narcissist. And it's time we can say that about the bad parent. Not just the bad father.
Queendragonfly · 31-35, F
@DearAmbellina2113 And how is that to be supportive of men to always say "But you have white privilege"
It's like telling a rich person to mot be depressed because they are rich.
It's like telling a rich person to mot be depressed because they are rich.
Queendragonfly · 31-35, F
@DearAmbellina2113 My friend had white men privilege, you think mental illness gave a damn? He hanged himself. Please don't invalidate others struggles and make it about you.
DearAmbellina2113 · 41-45, F
@Queendragonfly not what I'm doing. I was telling OP that there is a very valid reason why the women/men struggle is not equal. That's it and that's all.
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