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What makes someone weak? What makes someone strong?

My definition of weak is someone who generally and genuinely believes that they cannot get what they want out of life. A strong person is someone who generally and genuinely believes they can get what they want out of life. Do you think this definition is too simplistic?
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Miram · 31-35, F
Most times I find the dichotomy to be hypocritical nonesense. Mainly because we are products of our environments and my threshold of pain wont be the same for someone else. We all crash at some point.

But I can't help but to see strength in people riddled with challenges who push through them with a great sense of determination and strive.
SW-User
@Miram so strength, to you, is determination? Interesting.

This seems to be a common theme on this thread.

What do you think is fundamental to determination? Do you think people have to learn it, are they born with it, or do you think it arises as necessary given the challenges one may face?
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@Miram
Mainly because we are products of our environments and my threshold of pain wont be the same for someone else. We all crash at some point.


I agree with this but only to a point. I think that there is a point that most people would agree is pretty lame to crash at.

Like a person who regularly whines about something but never does anything about it or half asses it then stops and cries.

I think we would agree that such a person is weak right?
Miram · 31-35, F
@SW-User

I think when we decide someone is strong, it is us mirroring what we find best in others. We are trying to attach meaning to suffering or to hope. So it is relatively easy to decide who is strong whether or not it is true. What is there to lose with little encouragement..

I don't know about others but determination has been both for me, self preservation which is innate , you do what you have to in order to survive + the choice to become better which is to me pretty much the will to power like described by Nietzsche .

It is very easy to decide who is strong because ultimately I am just attaching values that I aspire to to others.

Weak though is tricky. Lack of strength isn't the only reason why someone would do that and wallow in misery. I met lot of strong people who stopped wanting to get better in some fields of their lives because they do love their problems and don't want to lose what they already have. And them complaining over and over empowers them and keeps them going..whereas it would depress you to hear.

They still have determination, determined not to leave their abusive partners, determined to still follow laws that don't have their best interest, determine to be religious despite gender discrimination..etc they can still will to become better but not in those particular aspects.

Are they weak as whole? I don't think so. I think they are only weak in those aspects.

And so am I in some.

I think sometimes when we consider them week we enable their laziness ..other times we do so as protection, like we are obligated to help the weak. So often it can happen as result of excessive superiority tendencies.

Unfortunately that also applies to strong. Lot tend to dismiss helping others and feeling responsible for their suffering by calling them strong.

I also think being strong is not always the right choice.
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@Miram this is an extremely nuanced perspective 👏🏽