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hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
Taking out a leader doesn't change a thing. We have evidence of that around the world. Decapitation is utterly foolish. Maduro is in NYC. His VP is now President. His government is still running the show. There are some dead Cubans but other than that nothing has changed. There is no mass uprising in Venezuela. AI video is not proof of anything. What this has done and this is a very very sad note is it has given China the green light to invade Taiwan. It has allowed decapitations around the world. Iran would be justified in taking out Netanyahu. Putin could take out Starmer. Carney would be justified in taking out Trump. This was not a wise move and Trump's approval ratings took another hit as the people who voted for him to fix the economy and end endless wars and regime change see him doing what he promised to stop. The world is not a better place because of Trump's ill conceived plans. Americans are not safer. Americans are still struggling to pay the rent and the taxes and buy food as their dollar continues to shrink. All this so Israel can steal some more land in the Middle East? It would certainly seem so. Trump just gave Israel the green light to attack Iran again.
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@hippyjoe1955 LOL, the supply of illegal narcotics is disrupted, instead of buying drugs folks can now buy food, clothing, and shelter, problem solved

Amen!! I've never seen anyone else take this brave and noble initiative. No one in history, I don't believe, has created such a loving resolution to avoid full-blown war and the unnecessary killing of soldiers and Nations. I haven't seen any other president accomplished this without one bullet. He should be up for the Nobel Peace Prize! He deserves the recognition, for sure. He's showing us how it's done. The right way!
@LadyGrace this is how Americans will taks us all over. With love! You're unstoppable. Nobody's ever going to stop your dominant USA! Unless we can!
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DanielsASJ · 36-40, M
@Roundandroundwego I am sure you are not a Drug kingpin.
ninalanyon · 61-69, T
Has that worked in the past? It's been tried but I suspect that the only cases where it might work is when the head of state is despised by the vast majority of the people in their country and where the backers of the assassin do not have any territorial ambitions.

Assassination was tried multiple times in the Balkans and in fact it is reasonable to argue that the assassination of Archduke Ferdinand in 1914 had exactly the opposite effect, it precipitated the war.
Think of the trillions spent and lives lost or injured trying to get Saddam. Yesterday took 15 minutes. No one was killed.
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sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@ArishMell Why are you so concerned about a bunch of cuban gestapo?
@sunsporter1649 If they nabbed Maduro during the Biden administration, the media would be cheerleading it as the greatest military operation ever.
Therealsteve · 31-35, M
You forget something. A lot of people struggle to understand complex issues, and find it issue to take the stance of:

"orange man is a bad guy, so if he does something then that's a bad guy thing to do, so I know it's something you shouldn't do. I'm a good guy".
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@Therealsteve My opposition to what Trump did has nothing to do with Trump. What he did is completely illegal and diametrically opposed to what he promised in his campaign for office. He said no more endless wars. No more regime change operations. Less than a year in office and what do we see from Trump?
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Prison1203 · 61-69, M
Yep, thank Trump. We finally have a no nonsense president In charge and it’s very refreshing
Elessar · 31-35, M
Problem with this approach is that usually there's no thought beyond the initial strike.

Remember that the modern Iranian state is1 the consequence of a regime change that, ultimately, didn't have the effect originally intended.

Who's going to fill the power vacuum left by forcibly removing Maduro?
DanielsASJ · 36-40, M
@Elessar So you worry about your feeds 4 years ahead of the time?
Elessar · 31-35, M
@DanielsASJ Not worry but guess
newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
@DanielsASJ To restore Venezuela's oil production to even a minimally useable level will take at least a decade and enormous sums of investment money (many tens of billions).

Any oil corporation is going to require serious guarantees over the long-term before betting the company in the face of regional instability and American whimsy
Docdon23 · M
Then it would be great if Iran, Venezuela, Cuba, Canada, Mexico, Russi, China or several others we have vilified took out trunp? Many of us would cheer.
MasterLee · 56-60, M
@DanielsASJ courage to admit their failures
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newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
Just taking out the president or the main king

Because the office holder is not the office... the head of state is not the state (except in autocracies such as Russia, USA, and North Korea)

Kidnapping Venezuela's president does not change the Venezuelan state, but I suspect it fundamentally changes the american state
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@newjaninev2 A good point.
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
If you think removing Maduro is going to have any effect other than starting a war with the people of Venezuela...... Do you want to buy some ocean front property in Northern Saskatchewan? In a few years with all the global warming it will be a tropical hot spot.
Docdon23 · M
@hippyjoe1955 It is all, and only, about the oil. This sets a bad precedent...who is next? Even our own "leader"?
Kwek00 · 41-45, M
I guess you never really grew up and looked at the long term implications of actions.
DanielsASJ · 36-40, M
@Kwek00 Granpaw, You have zero knowledge of geopolitics or it's outdated. Sadly, I don't intend to increase it. You yourself will have to build it. For a matter of fact, Syria, Venezuela both had Russian and Chinese support.
Kwek00 · 41-45, M
@DanielsASJ

For a matter of fact, Syria, Venezuela both had Russian and Chinese support.

So?

Also... no worries. I don't need lessons from hollywood or your twitter/reddit/facebook feed.
DanielsASJ · 36-40, M
@Kwek00 I am neither interested to give you any lessons. You are free to believe and comment what you like.
SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
The trouble is that mere mortals concern themselves with trivial matters such as international law, national sovereignty, diplomacy and democracy. None of which appears to matter to Trump.
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
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DanielsASJ · 36-40, M
@Docdon23 It's sad to see that you guys are living in complete darkness. @G7J2O
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sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
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War profits built endless war forever Amen, Americans made this the end!
God end your country.

 
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