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What if Trump was a Democrat

I read an article in The Atlantic by David Brooks called “Why Do So Many People Think That Trump is Good?”. Brooks draws on the philosophy of Alasdaire MacIntyre, saying that modern society has lost its sense of right and wrong, so our morality now is based on our personal preferences. He goes on to caution Democrats against getting too self-righteous, saying that if Trump was on our team most of us would love him too.

I would particularly appreciate responses from people who have read the article, but my questions are as follows: if Trump were a Democrat, what would that even look like? The whole “Do whatever the heck you want and you shouldn’t have to give a shit how it affects others” philosophy is on the Republican side, Democrats are against that. We’re in favor of social responsibility. So how could most Democrats “love Trump if he were on our team”?
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KGH68 · 61-69, FNew
I read the article but as always with David Brooks I end up frustrated and seriously annoyed. His entire piece is flawed as he idealizes Macintyre and indeed the Greeks ignoring the complications of morality and its relationship to modernity. Democrats would not love Trump and he would never be on our team - he's about cruelty and power - and for all its flaws the modern Democratic Party has been about trying to do the right thing for the majority of people. Civil Rights, Women's Rights, giving a voice to the little guy/gal.
Honestly, I can’t imagine him being a Democrat now. Possibly back when there were still a lot of Southern Democrats and more hardline conservatives were represented in that party. But now that they seem to have gravitated to the GOP, I couldn’t see Trump being part of any group with a large number of liberals or progressives, because he doesn’t personally agree with any of that. Even when Trump was a Democrat, his mask often slipped.
There once was a democrat like tRump; his name was Huey Long and he was a depression era governor of Louisiana. He had a similar mix of authoritarianism, populism, corruption, and demagoguery.

The leading democrat at the time, FDR, called Huey long “one of the most dangerous men in America.” His fellow democrats in state government fought against him as well.

My point here is that fellow democrats treated long very differently from the way fellow republicans treat tRump.

From reddit
Long then tried to pass a tax on oil to fund his programs, and just bluntly accused everyone who disagreed that they were bought by Standard Oil. The result was that he angered a lot of the state legislature, and they rallied enough votes to attempt to impeach him. To head off impeachment, he had the Speaker of the House call for adjournment, and when that wasn't going his way, the electronic voting board was rigged to say there were 68 votes to adjourn vs 13 against. That led to a brawl known as "Bloody Monday", where legislators attacked each other with brass knuckles and Earl Long (Huey's brother) bit another legislator in the neck (unfortunately, not the source of the hit series, True Blood).

After the brawl, Long was impeached on 8 counts, so he ̶h̶a̶n̶d̶l̶e̶d̶ ̶i̶t̶ ̶w̶i̶t̶h̶ ̶g̶r̶a̶c̶e̶ accused everyone of being bought by Standard Oil and bribed state senators to sign a document stating they would vote not guilty no matter the evidence. And he ̶f̶o̶r̶g̶a̶v̶e̶ ̶h̶i̶s̶ ̶e̶n̶e̶m̶i̶e̶s̶ ruthlessly purged state government of anyone remotely related to his political enemies.
Theyitis · 36-40, M
@ElwoodBlues From what I learned in history class, I liked Huey Long. Randy Newman seems to have a favorable opinion of him too.
@Theyitis There were definitely things to like about Huey Long. But the racism and the cheating and the corruption were quite problematic.

Through the issue of wealth and class, Huey Long had solved DuBois’s “Chinese Puzzle.” But although he effectively used the rhetoric of class warfare, the most destitute citizens of the state, white and especially black, were still effectively disenfranchised. Long’s base of support came from small-holding white farmers, rather than the proletarian masses, a fact which would influence who received relief under his regime.

Huey Long’s populism made no provision for union protection, child labor laws (he said picking cotton was “fun” for kids), or unemployment insurance. Part of the Long legend is that he distinguished himself from other southern populist demagogues by avoiding race-baiting, but the reality is much less flattering. He nixed old age pensions on the grounds that too much money would go to blacks. In the United States Senate, he opposed federal anti-lynching legislation. “I can’t do nothing about it no, sir. Can’t do the dead nigra no good.” Louisiana would retain one of the worst records of lynching in the country. During his governorship, black voter registration actually declined while white registration rose after the abolition of the poll tax. It’s true that state’s black citizens did benefit from some of Long’s program, but their status in Longite Louisiana is perhaps best summarized through his brother Earl’s gimmick of tossing coins to children while campaigning: he said he would give out “a quarter to the white kids and a nickel to the ni**ers.”
https://www.unpopularfront.news/p/what-is-huey-longs-legacy
Theyitis · 36-40, M
@ElwoodBlues Well, even if we were to accept that Long was the very previous incarnation of Donald Trump it does nothing to refute Brooks’ point that recently (in the last 45 years or so) Democrats and Republicans alike have lost their sense of traditional morality and replaced it with personal preference. We can all agree (I think) that Trump’s political career never would have gotten off the ground almost a hundred years ago, but Brooks is claiming that a “liberal Trump” (whatever that means) would rise just as easily in today’s Democratic Party as the real Trump did in today’s Republican Party.
There are conservative Democrats, like Eric Adams. I'm guessing Trump would do a lot of progressive virtue-signaling, which he actually did back in 2016. This was before trans panic, so Trump was saying that the LGBT population would be safe when he's president. Trump has no values, so he'll say anything. But once in office, he'd just give the billionaire globalists whatever they want.
TinyViolins · 31-35, M
Trump is to conservatism what Taco Bell is to Mexican food. I think it's very telling that he was a Democrat up until a black man became president, and then his shift to the Republican party came from years of going on Fox News accusing him of being Kenyan-born.

I don't know if he would ever fit with the modern Democratic party because so much of his rhetoric is tied up in xenophobia. Whether it's telling US-born congresswomen to go back to their own country, looking to ban Muslims, pushing for mass deportations, accusing Haitians of eating pets, or calling different countries 'shitholes', his appeal is always going to be towards the ignorant and insular base of white bigots.
RedBaron · M
Trump is, above all, a politician who came of age in New York City and its real estate industry, where politics is business and business is political.

He’s not loyal to any party, having supported and given money New York’s Democratic governors and mayors like Hugh Carey as well as presidential candidates like Bill Clinton.
PalteseMalconFunch · 36-40, T
I can’t read the article so I don’t know.

I could only read like half of it and I really don’t know where it’s going but I wasn’t really jiving with what I was reading
@PalteseMalconFunch yes, I am aware my engagement is keeping the system stable, and that it's locked to protect from it's plan
He actually did try running as a Democrat in the past. For Trump power is his only ideology.
Crazywaterspring · 61-69, M
"But the Democrats" has been David Brooks's schtick for years. He's just another media blowhard.
Fukfacewillie · 56-60, M
I scanned the column, but not a huge Brooks fan. I read that part and stopped. Absurd.
BuzzedLightyear · 61-69
What if a 6 was a 9?
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Theyitis · 36-40, M
@MarmeeMarch Yes, but Democrats didn’t want him to run for office, so he became a Republican.
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The politics of the two parties is killing Americans.
They want this and only this. No third party and no exit from them dying off. Good riddance.
Wouldn't matter, reset not occurring
Vin53 · M
I'd shave his ass and teach him to walk backwards.
Again not unlocking that system, keep pushing that cult survival code keeps wasting resources s
ChipmunkErnie · 70-79, M
He was -- then he switched parties. probably because he couldn't find enough bigots and neo-fascists in the Democratic Party.
Trumpie was a dem for 70 years

 
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